Kristen Wiig on Good Hang with Amy Poehler

Hello everyone. Welcome to another

episode of Good Hang. Oh, this is a good

one. We have comedy legend Kristen Wig.

You may know Kristen from SNL, from

Bridesmaids, from Barb and Star, from

Palm Royale. Um, but we're going to talk

about a lot of stuff today. We're going

to talk about working together uh on a

show at the same time. We're going to

talk about Carol Brunette and how much

we love Carol and everything she does.

We're going to talk about um The Real

Housewives of Salt Lake City and why I

should start watching it immediately.

And we're going to talk about her new

movie, Gabby's Dollhouse. So, that's out

and we're going to get into all of that

good stuff. But, we always like to start

our shows with someone that knows our

guest and can speak well of our guest

behind their back and can give me a

question to ask our guests. And we have

another celeb, I mean, another comedy

great, another former SNL cast member.

um who uh I had the privilege to share

the stage with and that is Bill Hater.

You all know Bill Hater. Barry, what

what I need to say. You know, you know

Bill. Bill. Bill,

can you hear me? I'm going to get my

cans on.

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Hi.

How's it going?

It's going good. I'm I'm I'm zooming you

from the studio and and wig is coming in

today. Thank you for doing this.

Oh, no problem. Thanks for having me.

Of course. I hope I can get I can get

you in the stewed. Oh man, I'd love to.

How's life?

Life's good. We're just like, yeah, just

writing, you know, the girl, you know,

Hannah's, you know, 16, Harper's 13.

Wow.

Haley's 11.

Yeah, they're great kids.

Yeah, just very sweet kids. So, very

feel very very lucky. I mean, they play

a lot of joke. My My 13-year-old

yesterday scared the [ __ ] out of me. She

sent me a a I was in bed reading and she

sent me a text and I looked at it and it

was a picture from underneath my bed and

I go and I hear under my bed. I was like

oh my god she was underneath my bed.

I was like what the [ __ ] is wrong with

you? And she just was dying laughing.

She was like oh my god. All right. Good

night. Good night. Just like just scared

me. It was so creepy. I was like why'

you do that? She was like, I don't know.

Just hid under my bed

cuz she's your child.

Yeah, my child. Yeah, exactly.

Okay, so we're going to talk about wig

and you know, I'm so I like I'm getting

ready for this interview today with her

and it's like I don't even know where to

start with Kristen. She's so good, so

talented. She's done so many things

during SNL, after SNL. Like she's had

this incredible career on her own terms

always. I mean, you two have done so

much incredible work together on the

show and in Skeleton Twins, which is

just beautiful work from the both of

you. And I guess

how would you describe Kristen as a you

know, as a friend and a performer?

You know, Andy and I had started the

show. Jason was already kind of but we

were all kind of in the same we were

freshman all at the same time and then

Kristen came in like three shows later.

So, I remember going into our office and

we were writing a Vincent Price sketch

and I was kind of like, I've been here

for three uh weeks. So, hey, newbie,

I know where the bathrooms are.

I know where the bathrooms are. I know

uh you have to change elevators uh at

this floor but and um and I uh said um

hey do you we're writing this you know

Vincent Price thing you know if you have

any old character or something you know

I was like Amy's playing a cigarette

girl you remember that you Chesterfield

cigarettes and you tap dance and Fred's

doing something and she went oh I'm I'm

a

could maybe do Judy Garland And I'm

like, "Oh, would that sound like?" And

she went, "Maybe like you ever get the

feeling that your hands are made out of

sand."

And I went, "Okay."

Okay. So,

and you're really good.

Then I was like, "Um, never mind. Okay.

I didn't realize who I was talking to.

That's a really good line." And the

impression was like spot on.

Yeah.

She's just so good at like um

at knowing how what would work on the

show, too. Like just

that's a perfect Yes. I always say like

I don't know if you I felt like here's

what the show likes, here's what I like

and I was trying to find this V v

diagram and like for her it was like the

same diagram. It's like what she

naturally found funny

the show it just it worked on the show

and I watched her for seven years and

every table read I feel like she did

something different.

Yeah. She's just such a crazy range.

Yeah, the range. That's the word I'm

looking for is I was like, how did she

how did she do that?

I know. She

played this Italian guy once and never

got on a show, but she played this

Italian man once. And he would just go,

oh yeah.

And someone be like, I do. And he's

like, oh yeah, oh baby, yeah. And I was

like, where did you [ __ ] get this,

you know? And you're just like, where

did that come from? And she's like, I

don't know, you know. Um, but she just

kind of it just felt very effortless to

her in a way that I I always really

admired and I really admired and again,

you know, you you Maya, you guys are

this way. It was like before the shows

it was like focused but cool as

cucumbers could go out do the show, come

back and and just had this confidence

and she she had that as as well, you

know.

Yeah, she really did. She like it felt

like she entered the show a fully formed

cast member ready to go

completely.

Yeah. And she also like like it's like

made it look fun.

Yeah.

It wasn't there wasn't like a science to

it. There was I don't know if this makes

sense. There was no like equal thing.

She was just being goofy.

Yes.

But and it didn't seem disposable at the

same time though. And that's really

hard. It was like wow that's a thing I'm

going to remember and that was fun. But

she's still just loose and having fun

with it. Yes, totally hear you.

Does that make sense?

It's It's 100% the best way to sum up.

Like

I feel like when I was watching her do

her sketches, I could sense her laughing

about them the night before.

I remember she did a Penelope sketch

and Liza Minnelli was in it at the end.

And uh

the Liza Manelli,

the Liza Menelli and Yes. The Liza. And

she and the thing was Penelopey was

always making things up and it was like,

"Oh, I I can't do that because I'm going

out with Liza Minnelli and a tomato

tonight." Right. Right.

And um

and Liza Minnelli showed up at the end.

And when Liza Minnelli came out on stage

and goes, "Hey, Penelope." I just saw

Kristen just try so hard not to laugh.

It was like just hearing her go, "Hey,

hey." And she had a tomato with her.

She's like, "Hey, Penelopey. Me and

Tommato are excited to go out to Christ

just

like biting her lips like found it so

funny.

Yes.

Another one I'll say real quick and we

but the other one I remember was I was I

was a game show host and a thing when

when Maya hosted and it came it was a

game show. She had written it with James

and she was before the sketch even

started on air Kristen was looking at me

and laughing really hard. I didn't know

why she was just laughing and shaking

her head like your first line is so

stupid and it was kind of like I think I

Yeah. And then and they had changed it

between dress and air and my first line

was to Vanessa Bayer who was a

contestant. I go before we went to the

break you said you you said the answer

to the question was beef. I'm sorry the

correct answer was nine.

And as I was saying that, Kristen was

like shaking her head and laughing like,

"I'm sorry, dude." We couldn't think of

anything else.

Yeah.

Like that's what I think of her. It's

just like she's just having fun, you

know?

Yes. Yes. So well said. So well said. Um

Okay. So do you have a question? Do you

think I should ask her? Anything about

anything? doesn't have to be about SNL

or comedy, but anything that I could ask

her on your behalf or

I I'm just always curious if she was

always that confident in that ability.

Was that was that a thing when she

started at Groundlings? Did she come in

going like did did she have Cuz as you

said very well, she came in fully formed

and I was like, was it always that way?

Because she had such a confidence in her

ideas.

Yes. Yes. that that that kind of I

remember asking her I was like how do

you write this

like how did you do that and she goes I

don't know I just think it and I do it

you know so she just always had such a

massive confidence in her ideas

that's a good way to put it that's a

really good way to put it

forte was kind of that way too

would do a thing and you would go what

how did where did that come from and you

know that look in their eyes where

they're like it never occurred to them

that that might be a crazy idea or

Yes.

I'm like my character has remember I was

in a sketch of hers and I feel like a

character either I did or a character

had pepperoni nipples

like nipples of pepperoni. I was like

where'd you come up with that? And it

was like looking at you like well we're

on a sketch show too

you know

I would take it too literally. I don't

know. But yeah, that would be a

question. I was like, yeah, where did

that was there ever a moment early days

where was that learned and honed or did

that did she just come out?

That's a great question. Thanks, Bill. I

know Chris is going to be so psyched we

talked today. Thank you so much for

doing it.

All right. Thanks, buddy.

Talk to you soon. Bye.

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Hi bud. Thank you for doing this. You

know, I know you don't do a lot of

interviews. I feel very I feel honored.

Well, thank you, you you do what you

need to do for work.

Exactly.

But you and and you

follow through with your obligations

with that, but you're not Yes. I do my

job.

Yes. Yes. But you don't love to, you

know, um, you want to kind of keep your

your life private.

Yeah. And like if I'm promoting

something, I'm happy to talk about that.

Sure.

But, you know, there's such a the line

is so blurred now. I'm happy to discuss

anything with you because you're my

friend. But, you know,

I know it's it's when it's someone that

you don't know and they're asking you

certain personal things, you're a little

bit like,

I don't know.

I know. And also I learned something

from you many years ago that I think

about all the time which is also I mean

I what I love about how you interact

with your work is like you put it out

there but you don't necess you kind of

just like put it out there and it's out

there

away

and you get under the blanket what it is

but you I don't want to know.

I know and it's such a great it's very

healthy

because it doesn't matter. I know. I

know it doesn't.

And actually, I remember Samberg telling

me a long time ago, like during SNL, you

can read a million reviews and you can

quote the bad ones like word for word.

Like I can remember things people said

about me.

Oh yeah.

So I like I just had having this movie

come out, this kids movie, and I texted

my publicist and I was like, "Don't send

me anything."

Yeah.

I will probably call her at some point

and say, "Did they hate it?" right?

Do they like it?

But I don't want to be sent

because it just gets in your brain and

it's not what your experience is and

like I don't know.

I I easily I'm sensitive too. That's

part of

same. And I you said something to me

that I think about all the time which is

I had like an evening where I was wore

whatever wore an outfit felt good in it

had a good time and then went home and

saw the picture of it and just was like

like just felt really sad and you were

like oh I don't like I don't do that.

But I don't look at pictures after an

event or something like I trust that

where what you know like I just kind of

like remember the feeling of it and I'm

working with great people and I when I

head out the door I feel good and I like

like leave it at that and I think about

it all the time because

bigger than like how we look. It's just

like the idea of like the world weighing

in on your mental on your own

and believe me I got there because I

would go and look and then I would just

feel horrible. I'm like but wait why do

I feel bad? I I know.

I thought I liked it and then in my mind

I'm like, "Well, now did I

I just Yeah,

I know. So, I I think about you all the

time when I do try when I try not to

look at pictures of myself. Um but we

are going to um change our faces into

cats for this.

We're going to put I want filter.

Yeah, we're going to put I'm going to

have flames coming out. We're going to

be It's going to be babies. This is

going to hang babies. And we're going to

I want to look 30 years younger, but

naturally guys

you look incredible. just make it look

incredible and and I do feel like you

are like I don't I wouldn't consider you

an introvert but I do think you're

probably more introverted than people

would assume. Right.

I would agree with that. People are

often disappointed.

No, but it's true. I think also because

our people know us our origins into the

public life is comedy. So people think

if you're at a dinner table and someone

says, "Kristen, tell that story and 14

people look at you." That's my

nightmare.

I'm so bad at it.

I'm really bad. And And I was talking to

my husband. I was like, "I'm really bad

at like telling stories." And he's like,

"Yeah."

He's like, "I've noticed

you're you are." And I was a little

shocked, but then it made me realize

that like it's true. I I don't like

that. I don't I'm not good at it.

Halfway through I realize everyone's

looking at me and then I'm like, how did

this how does this end? I'm like, I'm

not.

And some people are so good at it.

Oh, yeah. And some people when they go

in to tell a story, they like settle in

like here we go like a warm sweater and

I'm in. And I'm like, don't stop because

I don't want people to ask me to tell a

story.

I know because it's it is it is like I

mean there's so much to talk to you

about today and like like I don't even

know where to start because there's so

much good stuff to talk about. I want to

talk about groundings and I want to talk

about the beginnings of things because I

feel like I don't think a lot of people

know your beginnings of things. Like

what what were you like as a kid? Were

you you said that you didn't know you

said you had no like big plans to be an

actor or a performer at all? No,

no. I mean, I I would like watch movies

and be like, "Oh, yeah, I want to do

that." But I think that's like everybody

wanted to like

Were you ever like in a school play or

or you know?

No. I mean, I

an attention seeker in any way.

I think maybe a little bit just from

like my parents getting divorced

and being like, I'm going to cause

trouble.

Oh, you became a little bit of a

troublemaker. Yes, I did.

Exciting.

I did. And I don't know if that turned

into like

But you caused a little problem.

I did. And I'm not bragging about it. I

feel terrible, especially now that I'm a

parent.

Well, but what are Can you share any of

I mean, I was got detention a lot. I was

suspended a handful of times. I had

police come to my house for like a prank

prank phone calling stuff. Okay.

But still, they came.

Um, and that was scary. But I was I

think because and I and I I'm bringing

it back to like parents divorce which

don't turn this off. It's gonna be

funny. Um

uh it really affected my life. Yeah. And

I think I went into like my friend

group, which I think happens a lot where

if things are like uncertain at home,

like your friends become your family.

And I was just always with my friends

and always sleeping over at other

people's houses. And some of the people

I was hanging out with were like

uh troublemakers, I guess. And I just

kind of like got in with a little bit of

the wrong crowd, I think, young. And

then I moved when my mom moved to

Rochester and I I moved with her and at

the time I was like I don't want to

move. These are my friends.

But thank God that like saved my life.

Yeah,

it really saved my life.

It is true. Like especially now that you

have kids, you know, we we know that

like

it that whoever you're around, the

proximity of who you're around can

really dictate what kind of choices you

make.

Yeah. And it's hard as a parent. No. I

mean, my kids are five, so I'm not I

can't totally.

But even when my kids were five, you'd

see other 5-year-olds, you'd be like,

"You got to stay away from them."

I know. You're like, "Do you really want

to have a play date with them?" Really?

No.

Be like, "Are you sure?"

I don't know. They seem nice, but like

And then you just pick up, you just hold

the phone upside down and you're like,

"I just called their mom and they're not

home. They've moved.

They'll be at school on Monday.

Their mom said no more play dates."

Okay. So, you But where do you grow up?

Where where's your hometown? in before

in Lancaster, Pennsylvania,

right? And then

Amish town,

which also probably added to a little

bit of the mischief like

Yeah, cuz there wasn't a lot to do, you

know, like playing playing down at the

creek,

running through the corn fields. I

really was. But yeah, I I don't know. I

don't know if it's the place or just who

I was hanging out with. I don't know.

Yeah. And then did is it really true

that a psychic told you that you were be

an actress?

Okay, let me just clarify this story.

Okay, is that a fake story?

Because it's not totally fake.

Um, I'll give you like the short

version, but I I was living in Arizona.

I was going to school there. I was at

the University of Arizona in Tucson, and

I did not really want to be there.

Yeah.

And I just felt like I was supposed to

be

somewhere else. Um, I was an art major

and I just I wasn't like I wasn't

connecting with something. I did take an

acting class. It was like acting 101. I

think that's what it's called. Um, and I

was terrified to do it because I hated

speaking in front of the class.

Like would skip school, which is always

the worst thing because then you have to

come back on a different day and do the

book report when everyone else is like,

"We did this last week." It's just even

more awkward. But I hated speaking in

front of the class. Like I would just

get anxiety.

So I didn't want to take this class. I

took it. I loved it.

And I was like, I don't want to be here.

I'm not supposed to be here. And I do

have this theory that if you ask

yourself questions in the mirror, you

cannot lie to yourself.

And it's very

uh

Ooh,

yes. That's deep. like looking in the

mirror

and just being like where

what do you want to do?

And it was like I want to move to LA and

try to be an actor

and that had kind of never

come out of my mouth before. It just

seemed like something so

far I'm not I just didn't seem like

anything that would ever happen. So, and

at this time in Arizona, I was like, you

know, going to like spiritual bookstores

as we do in our 20s,

getting crystals.

Oh my god. Pendulums of like I was like

really in like a nice like healthy way.

Um,

and I wasn't like doing voodoo or

anything. Um, and I went into this

bookstore and there was a sign that was

like

I swear it said like psychic Mike. It

was like a dollar a minute. And I was

like, I'm going to go see that guy. And

I went in and I sat down and he was

like, oh, give me your ring. And he was

like holding my ring. And he was like,

he's like, what are you doing here? He's

like, why are you here? He's like, you

should have been in LA like a year ago.

No way. Just out of my life.

Love it.

He could have said that to every person

that walked in there.

He's like, "What are you doing here?"

That's what he says to every person. And

they're just like, cuz no one knows. You

don't go into a psychic cuz you know

what you're doing.

Exactly.

But I

I like went home and packed up my car.

What?

And my cuz my roommate at the time lived

in LA and I was like, "Can I come stay

with you?

Didn't tell my parents.

Packed up my car.

Bad girl."

Drugged my cat.

Drove to LA and just

quit quit quit school.

Quit school.

Dang. You are a rebel wig. You're Yes,

you are.

It was very uh I think because I knew

someone

Sure.

it was less scary.

Um

but yeah, to like get an apartment and

got a job.

I mean, back then it was you only needed

to know like one person to make a

humongous career and life change. It was

like, I'll just go. Same thing with me.

I knew someone who had graduated from

college who was my old roommate who was

living in Chicago. So, I was like, all

right, I'll just move to Chicago. like

she's there.

Like that's all you needed was one

person

and

and we didn't have like phones or

anything like that.

We just drove.

We just drove

with like a map

and a cat and a map and we were just

like And then we just looked at and then

the signs were just arrows. It just said

Hollywood.

Yeah.

It just said success Hollywood acting

town and you just and you pulled up. So

you go to Groundling. What What year do

you get in Groundlings? What year do you

start Groundlings? I I waited a couple

years cuz once I got to LA, I was like,

I've never acted before.

Oh, so you didn't start right away. I

was like, what? This town is full of

every person here is trying to do that.

And I

I got freaked out and I worked at like a

hot dog restaurant and then I worked at

anthropology and I was like doing all

these like odd jobs. And then

um

a friend of mine that I was working for

when I was doing like painting, I'd had

a million jobs. Um he was like, "Have

you ever been to the Groundlings?" And I

was like, "No, what is it?" And he's

like, "You should go." He's like, "I

just think you'd like it."

And yeah, that first show I'd never seen

improv. I'd never seen like live sketch,

but it was like

Jen Culage,

um Michael Hitchcock.

Uh, and I was just like, "This is what I

want to do."

Wow. Yeah.

This is it. Oh my god. They're just

making stuff up.

I was like, "I don't have to like read

and say a line a certain way that's like

right or wrong. I could just like do

that."

And it was like n it was it was the '9s.

So, you're doing sketch and improv and

like like everybody like hoping to get

on SNL.

Yeah. Just like that was the goal was

like and you're watching people

go and get on.

Yeah. And then Mad TV came out and that

was the thing and a lot of people were

auditioning for that.

Right. Right.

Cuz that was happening out here.

I remember there was that time when it

was like you can audition for Matt TV

and SNL like you like it was very like

one or the other like choose now. And it

was like babe no one's offering me

either job.

You're like having imaginary

conversations in your head about like if

Matt TV asks I'm going to say no. It's

like they're not asking.

Wait, did you do sketch in college?

Yeah, I did like improv and like an

improv group in college and we did like

sketches at the end of the show

and it was and you know it was I loved

my improv group. It was called My

Mother's Flea Bag, which is like sure.

And um you know, I love an improv group

name. And My Mother's Flea Bag had been

around forever, you know, and they and

we had it was like a little frat for

like a little nerdy frat or sority. And

we had all these rituals and customs.

And at the end of our show, we would go,

"It's it's it's my mother's flea bag."

Like as if it was like live from S, you

know, like we were doing some like

version of SNL and we would do sketches

and improv. Oh, that's so cute.

But you didn't do any sketch or improv

in um University of Arizona.

No no no no no.

Interesting. Amazing. So then much later

you go can you I mean

your audition for SNL

is it it is weird to like have auditions

out in the world? I don't know. Did you

watch any of the 50th stuff when they

were showing?

I haven't watched you watch and I've

never seen my audition. I never want to

ever see it cuz I did two.

Okay. You audition and then what

happened?

Well, okay. You auditioned once and then

you got it and you turned it down.

I turned it down

because Matt TV was coming back. No, I

uh I auditioned and then I didn't hear

anything and then the season started.

And then you were like, I'm not on.

Okay.

I'm not there.

And then

Oh, wait. No. How did it go? Maybe. No,

no, maybe that's wrong. I auditioned.

No, that's not right. I auditioned.

Uh, didn't hear anything. Then they

asked me to audition again and I was

like, I did everything.

I was like, what?

Okay. I don't even know what was in that

second audition. And then

and then I didn't hear anything. And

then the season started and that's when

I was like, I didn't get it. No, but

then they called me and they were like,

can you you we'd love we have a spot for

you. Whatever. I forget. Can you come in

like 2 weeks?

I'm finding that out that they hired you

after the season had started.

Yeah. You guys had done three shows and

then they were like, "Come watch uh I I

literally got there on like a Friday. I

came and I watched Lance Armstrong's

show

and then

comedian comedies Lance Armstrong."

But I remember being like, "What?"

Because to watch a show from the floor,

no matter what, is intense. But knowing

that I was

starting on Monday and nobody

No, no one knew because nobody told

anyone that is like notoriously not good

at onboarding.

No no

they're not good at onboarding.

And then I just showed up on Monday.

Yeah. But I I do remember going to the

party and going outside and calling my

friend and like sobbing cuz I was like

what? I was so overwhelmed. I didn't

like know anybody and I'm like in I was

like in New York, you know what I mean?

I didn't I didn't know the city and I

was so scared.

Yeah. cuz I knew no matter what I was

going to be on and I just didn't know

what like how do you get there from

never even being on the floor

to like 8 days later or whatever like

being on the show.

I mean the only thing I can compare it

to and I know it sounds kind of cheesy

but it feels like it is like an

emergency room where someone's like

you're going to have to save people's

lives just watch what we're doing now.

Like that was how it felt. You were

like, and again, it's not saving

people's lives what we did, but like

it's like this really well-run emergency

room where everyone knows what they're

doing and they have a part and you're

just like in everyone's way.

They're like, "Do you need a scalpel?"

No, totally. Totally. And they're like,

"You have to know how to do this. Like,

no one's going to teach you."

Yeah. Or like, you know, we have a

meeting in 10 minutes. It's like, "No,

no,

no one told me.

No one told me."

Did that happen when you were there?

Oh my god. I mean, I started at 911. So,

they were

That was your first show.

That's right.

When when when

cut when when when Rudy Giuliani, you

can cut go to this camera. Just cut to

commercial. Um Yeah. When Rudy Giuliani

said like, "Why be funny?" And Lauren

Lauren said, "Can we be funny?" And Rudy

Giuliani said, "Why start now?" And the

first responders were on stage. That was

my first show. And it was like and

everyone was like, "I think comedy's

over." and and you know but here

and I remember thinking well maybe like

hang in there for six bar months so I

can just tell my parents that I did the

show. Yeah that was and that was

and talk about no no not not no one told

you where the meeting was but people

were like fleeing the building.

Yeah

because there was anthrax in it. So, um,

what there was anthrax sent to

Oh right.

30 Rock and like 2 or 3 weeks in, people

were running out of the building and I

was like, "Where's everyone going?" And

they're like, "We're leaving cuz there's

Anthax in the building." I was like,

"So, we should go. We should leave then.

I don't want to get in trouble." Um, so

yeah. So, you and I both had It's so

There was no, you know, there was

obviously Shoemaker being one of them,

like great producers who took us aside

and said like,

"Make sure you do this, whatever." But

it was you were really thrown to the

wolves which I guess is kind of like how

the show is

and I think that's why it's great.

Yeah, I know. But but I wig from the

minute you started and I did watch your

audition and it's so good and it's it's

every single character Oh, I think every

single character in your audition ends

up being a fully realized character on

the show which is amazing.

I don't that can't be true.

I think it's true. And you're so like

you arrive at that show in my opinion

ready and confident to try what is the

job which is like to try your dumb

ideas. Do you think it was the it was it

was groundings that got you ready for

that? Like do you think that's what

I think groundings helped me realize

what I do and my voice like as a writer

and as a performer. So, I was kind of

like, I'm going to do that and if that

doesn't work, then I know I'm not going

to like work here. So, I remember that

first like Tuesday, no, Wednesday um

read through. Yeah. My god. Um

I was like, if they don't get it like

this, this is where I know if like it

doesn't translate beyond that theater on

Melrose and that like I'm in a different

place. Do you know what I mean?

Yes. But that's a that's you know. Okay.

So, we do this thing on the show where

we talk to we talk well behind people's

backs. We talked to Bill Hater today and

and your your brother

and um and and hater and I were talking

about you and how great you are. And we

were saying that there's this feeling

that we always got from you, which is

exactly that, which is like you were

putting up stuff that made you laugh and

you were like, "Well, this is what I

enjoy." It was, you know, there wasn't

that feeling of like, let me try to get

something that might get on or let me

try to get something that might please

the host or whatever. It was always like

your the confidence in your idea. And

his question for you is the one that

like I feel like I'm asking right now,

which is like when how did you get the

confidence in your own ideas? Where did

it come from?

I

It's weird because I don't see it as

confidence.

Um,

I think I just kind of I don't know. I'm

just talking. I've never really answered

this, but I think I kind of wanted to

know where I was in the world as far as

like my

uh point of view

and like the more I would put up that I

thought was funny, the more I could kind

of like hone what what kind of works and

what doesn't. Does that make sense? But

I do remember Forte telling me once in

his office

me saying

something like, "I don't know if Lauren

would like this or and he was like,

don't do that." He's like, "Never write

for if you think someone else is going

to think this is funny." He's like,

"Write if like you think it's funny."

And I like I always carried that with

me.

Um

I mean you and Will Forte share that.

You guys both share that feeling of like

when it comes from either one of you,

there's no doubt that the two of you

have been laughing about it and like

like you find it funny just die a slow

death.

But I love those times too like

writing those. I remember you and I

wrote something that to this day like

James and I quote when we were like

performers in like a cafe.

Oh. and it died a terrible day. And I

remember we were like describing

some the way someone looked as a pencil

because they had a yellow outfit on and

like a pink hat or something. We just

said they look like a pencil. I don't

know if that's Well, it didn't work

either but

maybe the way James But there was

something about it that when you're

doing it and you know that little moment

where like this is the little hook where

the audience laughs and when they don't

and you have like four more minutes.

Oh, I know. It's exquisite though. It's

It's like a sweat that if you get

through the fever of it, then you feel

like you your immune system is like

stronger. Also, you were seeing your

heroes. I'm sorry for me, you included.

Everyone's doing

their best and everyone has stuff.

Sometimes it doesn't work and you're

like, "Oh, okay." This happens to

everybody.

Yeah.

But the cool thing about it is when you

show up and there's like 50 sketches to

read.

The people people think that they're

going to work and you just never know. I

know. But so much of your stuff worked.

Like crush.

I mean, it's like, okay, well, you've

talked about this and I've heard you

talk about it and really made me laugh.

Your for the first sketch you were in at

SNL

Oh, yeah. was

when uh you right Yeah.

were pregnant in the butt.

My character was pregnant.

Your character.

But it was It's funny because back it up

even to like my first pitch because that

was JB Smooth,

right? The great performer JB Smooth.

the great everything but the best

pitcher.

Incredible.

And he pitched this thing where you were

pregnant in the butt and everyone was

laughing and I didn't know that like

he's the he just does like funny

pitches,

right?

And he wrote it.

I think and he often he often JB I think

you often pitch stuff that maybe you

weren't going to write.

Yes. You know what I mean? I always

pitch stuff I wasn't going to write.

Same. That was kind of the thing on

Monday night. You would be like um and

you just kind of [ __ ] your way to

get a laugh

and then you'd be like okay and now I

really have to buckle down. But I think

because the response was so funny, JB

was like, I should write I gotta write

this. That's the other thing. And you're

like, I wasn't really gonna write that

thing.

Yeah.

It was my very first sketch.

Jason Lee.

Jason Lee was Foo Fighters.

Yes. Fighters.

Foo Fighters. I did say that. A

Fighters.

I'm so happy that was my first.

That was your first sketch. And do you

remember the first like I mean the first

character? You have so many. But do you

remember the first one that was a

recurring that you thought is Was it

Target Lady? Like where you felt like,

oh, I'm going to get to do this again.

Like I have some kind of

I don't know.

I know. It might was it A-holes with

Sedakus?

It was either A-holes or Target Lady.

Yeah.

I mean, for people who don't remember,

um, you know, Kristen has done so many

characters. I mean, we could talk about

them all day, but there was a there was

Target Lady who was of course very very

excited about things getting improved.

She goes, and had an incredible haircut.

Great wigs. Thank you.

Um, incredible wig. And then another

great wig and another character was

A-holes, which is Sedakus, Jason

Sedakus. And you and you guys were kind

of like

just like the worst people to show up

anywhere.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And you did a great move where you

would play with your hair and chew gum.

Real simple.

So there you are. You're at SNL crushing

it. Bridesmaids comes out. Brad Smith

comes out while you're on the show.

Yes.

That's I don't think people understand

that. I I mean I don't think I did

either. The the timeline of that you

were still on the show when the gigantic

um incredible explosion that is

bridesmaids happens and you're still and

you know a lot of people have to kind of

launch and then figure out their their

way after they leave the show. You're

kind of having this moment while you're

still having a full-time job on the

show. What was that like? Was it hard to

balance like going back and forth or

shooting or press or any of that stuff

or do you remember it being kind of

smooth?

I don't really think I knew how well it

was doing until like later until I was

off the show.

Yeah. You had some more perspective on

it?

I think so.

And you and Annie Malo who wrote it

together like did you guys get to have a

moment where you said looked at each

other and said like holy [ __ ]

Later cuz I remember after opening

weekend they were like

well we tried. And we were like, "Sorry,

really? Why?" Cuz

Yeah, because you know, opening weekend

was always the thing. It was a comedy

and it didn't make a certain thing and

we were like,

"Oh, well, okay." We just thought like

that was it.

Wow.

And then I think just more and more

people kept seeing it and then happened

later. Yeah. It was a grower.

Wow. That's so cool. I mean, it's still

we talk we're talking about stuff from

20 years ago, but it still remains a lot

of people's favorite comedy and it's

still a spec for what it looks like to

have like a bunch of women in a film

together writing their own material like

like what a hard well done mostly female

com like it's still such a superior

piece of work wig.

Thank you Amy.

Um, no question.

Commercial. I got a commercial.

There's so many funny characters that I

want to talk about, but I won't I won't

embarrass you by going through them. But

I've said this to you before. My

favorite character is the surprise lady.

Thanks. That's one of my favorites.

I love her. I I love her for a million

reasons. I love her because the the the

the way you play her is so funny. I love

her wig. Fantastic wig. Always in a

turtleneck.

Always.

Well, she had to hide in it.

She had to hide in it. That's right.

That's right. Did you Did you write it

was in the script that we like that we

pulled it over? Yes.

And when I when I say that was one of my

favorites, that comes from doing it.

Yeah,

like I

I like being I like being in a sketch

where

there's a lot of people and there are

moments where everyone is looking around

like what is going on? I love that

moment. I love a cut to Kenan just

like we got to get out of here. Like

this lady is nuts.

I my favorite thing.

That actually would be a really good way

to sum up a lot of your characters.

Oh yeah. Most of my sketches, if you go

back and look, I'm like, "No, you got to

cut to people being weirded out by me to

remind the audience that." But why I

love the surprise lady so much is cuz

there's a lot of wig in it, I think,

because she is

nervous

but excited

and she loves a party

and she cannot wait to deliver that good

news. She can't wait. And the

physicality of her and the way

So funny. God, I just watch clips of it

all the time.

Yes.

I love it so much. It's so funny and

stupid.

Yep.

Funny and stupid.

Yes.

Which is the best,

which we know is the highest praise in

comedy.

Agree. Like the the more people go, "H,

that's so dumb."

Dumb and you're like, "Yay, I did it."

Okay, speaking of like hilarious, funny,

and physical, can you just talk for a

minute about what it's like to work with

Carol Bernett on

Oh, your season is coming out. Season

two is coming out November. Okay.

12th. Yes.

Palm Royale.

Um,

so many things I could say about Carol.

When I met her, I just fully cried

and I was not expecting it. And I don't

that is never except for when my kids

were born and I saw them and I cried. I

can't remember a time

when I just I didn't think I was gonna

cry and then they just it just like

burst out of my eyes. I wasn't expecting

it.

I I watched her as a kid. There's uh

she's as you know,

she's just the greatest person.

She was very important to us.

Yes. So important to us. And the fact

that she just did it

Mhm.

as a woman

during that time and so many people said

no.

It makes perfect sense that you guys

were working together because you

definitely have

I mean you have that thing that she has

um which is you're able to enter a scene

and just

dominate in that way in a a hilarious

joyful

and confident way. But you also like

tiny small and grounded things too. I

think you have a lot of other interests

too. Like I actually think you like

for people who don't know you're you

you're an artist. You love to and you're

a musician. What's your relationship to

music and singing and making music?

Well, music is definitely the thing that

I need to create anything else. Like if

I'm going to draw, I have to have music

on. Or if I'm writing something, it's

always to like music that I

am picturing will be in this part of the

thing. I think it like opens up that

part of my brain

that allows me to go in and be like,

"What do you really think?" Cuz if I

just sit there,

I think like, "Oh, what will they

think?" Does that make sense?

Yeah, for sure.

Um,

and then I mean, I've always sang like I

sang in like, you know, the choir when I

was a kid.

Have you ever thought about wanting to

sing?

Yes.

Sing.

Yeah. Like I mean you do sing sing but

like

but I would love to do like a

help not like a record.

I would love to do that.

You should you should

but I don't even know how to like get

started.

Just this just you just

Can you weigh in on the comments on this

sing?

How does Kristen get started?

How do you get into the music business?

It also feels like you could do you

could dip your toe into some version of

it where it didn't have to feel so like

Yeah. Like like a thing.

Yeah. Like you could join someone's

band.

Whose band should you join?

Again, weigh in. If you've got a band,

just take them in a new direction.

Just just quieter. Just a little bit

quieter.

Just calling them up. Like guys, I know

you have your thing and your thing works

great. You've been doing it a long time

and we think what if you just

and your fans would love to sit down

and I've got the music for it.

Your fans would love to put their arms

down.

Do you go to still go to rock shows

anymore

cuz we when we were young and and out

and about, we did it up. We did it up.

That's why those honestly the best years

of my life like being in New York and on

we

and being young and

we did it up and now

I do not do it.

No,

don't do it.

The thought of going to a concert.

The thought of getting ready to go out

at 11:00, which is what I used to do.

Oh my god. Never.

Can you imagine?

I go out to dinner with my friends at

6:00.

Okay, let's talk about

6 p.m. cuz I want to be home. love to

eat dinner at 6 p.m.

Me too.

What's your ideal bedtime?

Well, you mean sleep or get in the bed?

Great question,

cuz those are different from hours.

Um, I would say, what is your what is

your ideal time to be in bed?

What do you try when do you try to get

in bed?

8:30 9:00.

Love it.

Asleep by 10

10:30. Yeah,

cuz I do like waking up early.

Yes. when everyone else is asleep so I

can have my my little quiet time.

Yeah, cuz you have little ones and you

have to kind of get ready for that cuz

morning is intense.

Morning's tough.

Yeah. Now that I have teenagers, it's

really funny now. Like

my mornings are I have 5 hours before

people wake up.

I'm like it's 10:30. You have to get up.

Yeah. But don't they say it's like a

brain thing? Like they have to let them

sleep.

A teenager wrote that. I

like mom here. I I heard it was a brain

thing. this article.

I'm supposed to sleep. The scientist

said,

"Um, okay. We're going to get to Gabby's

Dollhouse, which just came out."

Okay. So cute.

Is it fun to play a villain? You've

played him. I know. That character looks

so funny and fun.

Well, my kids love Gabby Stall House,

and so

I knew that this was going to be this

was going to go a long way for me at

home.

Yeah. Um, and then the script happened

to be really cute and Ryan Craiggo, the

director's dream.

Awesome.

Um,

yeah, and it was just really fun. And we

had the premiere on Saturday and I got

like a little emotional watching it

because

it's so positive. M

it is so

it's got such a great message and you

know when you're in a theater just with

other people having the same experience

and like you're just completely blocked

out from what's going on in the world.

There was just something so like oh this

is going to go out in the world and it's

like really nice.

Yeah, I feel you, man. I It's like the

world is rough right now and it's like

anything that's like some kind of like

funny or peaceful or I guess just like

anything that just can like take you

away.

I can't do anything dark right now.

No, I can't. It's already everything is

already so dark. I mean that's why I ask

my guest this and I'll ask you this is

like what what's making you laugh? Like

I'm asking people all the time like what

do you what do you watch on

We got to fly. We got to fly. Sorry.

Oh, we got a fly.

Let's get it. I was told there'd be no

flies in here.

I have I did a sweep before I got

married.

I have a fake I have fake I have fake

bread that has a quarter in it.

Let's see if we can catch the fly.

Why is there a quarter?

I don't know. I think cuz you need to

have something in there, right?

Yeah, it's a feel bad for the

And then it's ceramic and Yeah. Then

there's just change in it.

Do you have that thing sometimes where

you feel bad for inanimate objects?

Yes. So do I.

Have you seen Julio Torres's stuff? Um,

uh, he does a bunch of stuff about with

inanimate objects. He's a stand up. He's

hilarious.

I think that's like a thing.

And it is a very, um, where I look at

things and I feel like, oh, he's lonely.

Yes.

Yeah, I do.

That happens to me.

Yeah. How does it manifest for you? How

do you see it? I remember so

specifically I was in the bathroom and

you know how you have like um it's like

a pill thing and maybe it's like I don't

know if it was like allergy pills and

you pop them through

and there's like two, right? And I

needed two but there was one left over

and so I grabbed that one and then one

from the other one and my dad was like

why didn't you just get two from this

one? And I was like, "Well, that one's

been by itself for so long."

And I I feel like he thought that was

cute, but I wonder if he was like, "Oh,

no."

Yes.

But I remember think, well, clearly I

wouldn't just these two have been

together the whole time. This one's been

by itself. Now I sound crazy.

No, I completely do like like when

you're a kid, stuffed animals like you

have to like make sure that like they

can breathe.

Why are you laughing? Yes. And I often

rotate because I think, well, you've had

a good view for a while and this one has

been back. I feel bad when I'm like,

this one has been behind the other one

or in a drawer and I'm like, that one

has been in in the dark for too long.

Yes.

I I totally do that.

Okay. Me, too.

And same with just a random objects. And

I wonder if there is some kind of like

what what's the we're anthropomorphizing

things. for making them feel like

they're human. But there must be some

kind of connection to like our

or maybe we don't want to be left alone.

Cut to commercial.

Cut to commercial. Cut to a slow

commercial.

Is that a lip gloss?

Cut to a Cut to a sad lip gloss

commercial.

Do you know how much money a makeup that

would be so smart? would be smart

just having people put their makeup on

but everyone's sad

and they're crying

because people be like did you see that

commercial?

You're right. That's a great idea.

Happy like putting on their makeup. What

if people are just bummed out?

You're so right. If they're tears are

coming down and they be like I remember

that. I'm buying that.

Or they come they come home after a long

night and they're like they throw up and

then they put their makeup back on.

Yes. And then they put it back on.

You're so right.

Yeah.

Clinique.

Um, so what are you listening to

watching? Do you watch comedy? And no,

I know it's hard, right? I can't do it.

It's hard.

I have a hard time watching.

It's not hard, but as a kid, I think

what made me fall in love with TV and

film is that I would get completely lost

in it.

Now I'm like, "Oh, they shot this at

night.

Totally. Did they eat before? Like, is

this the beginning of the night shoot?

His hair is different.

No, his hair is different. They shot us

out of order.

I noticed that stuff and it drives me

insane.

Me too.

And my kids sometimes, you know, I'll be

like, "This isn't in Canada." They'll be

like, "Mom," I'm like, "It's not

Canada."

I totally noticed that, too.

The trees and they're just like, "Mom,

stop."

I totally do that, too.

Okay. So,

so I I do watch reality

and I am not ashamed. You shouldn't be.

Oh, I'm a Bravo gal for sure.

Okay. What? Who? Who are you at all?

Have you done the Have you done um Andy

Cohen and talked about watch Have you

done that and talked about the house?

Who are your faves? Who do you love?

So many.

I mean, there's it depend like different

cities have different I'm I'm about to

Salt Lake just started

a new a new season.

Yes. A new season of Salt Lake, which is

one of my favorite

Okay.

We got back.

Jenna just said what makes Salt Lake so

good for people like myself that don't

know.

It's just bonkers.

Great.

Um everything that makes the the fashion

the what the ladies they're just I love

it so much. I have noticed like at night

it probably isn't the best thing to

watch before I go to sleep

because it gives you nightmares

just because of the yelling and the

brightness and like all the things

you're not supposed to have before you

go to sleep,

right?

Um the yelling and the brightness.

But I love I love watching non

acting.

Yes, it helps my brain not it helps me

turn it off a little bit. Now I get a

little embarrassed for people and

stressed for them

watching what?

Reality.

Oh, reality. Yes. Oh, I Yes.

But but what is it about watching

non-acting that like relaxes you?

Because I've heard that quite a bit from

people who watch it. It's like it's

weirdly relaxing even though there's

like conflict and all that stuff. Can

you do you know why?

Well, I think with acting, you're

watching someone who has looked at a

scene, studied a scene, they're doing

the scene, they've edited, it's the best

version.

Um, there's effort there. There's so

many people working on it. And then with

reality, it's just like this just

happened.

These two people are talking and this

lady said that thing and oh my god,

and I just I don't know. I like just

being out in the world and seeing these

people.

Yes. walk around and just their parties

and their outfit.

There's so many parties.

I love these women so much. They are my

family.

Can we watch a clip from Salt Lake that

you would it if you were to tell if I've

never I've never watch Salt Lake.

Oh. Oh my god.

I know this is hard, but what would be

one?

I guess maybe What about when when the

the van when Jen Shaw gets

I would say Jen Shaw. Yes. Sprinter van.

Sprinter van. You can't just write

sprinter van because you will get every

franchise.

They're always in a sprinter van going.

I genuinely don't know what I'm going to

see here.

Okay. Should I give you some context?

Please.

Please.

So, Jen Shaw is currently right or she

get out incarcerated.

Still in.

He's incarcerated. Okay.

Incarcerated with Elizabeth Holmes.

They're in the same

and they're buddies. One can hope. One

can hope. Um,

they were going on a trip and the FBI.

There's so much exciting laughter.

I'm taking my time up to talk about. Um,

no, I love it.

The FBI was raiding her I'm just looking

at you, Jenna. Raiding her house. So,

she like didn't show up and it's the all

the girls on the van realizing

what is happening. I'm not selling it as

well. You have to. So, okay. When the

FBI shows up, it's this.

Yeah, maybe that's it.

There's a couple here, but the police

are looking for

Oh, but it's when she's on Oh, this is

what it is. She's on the van.

She's in

and she's like, "Oh,

okay."

She finds out

and she leaves saying that her husband's

in the hospital.

Oh, is that the clip where she goes on a

long rant about my husband's in the

hospital? No, that's not Gencha. Oh, no.

Okay. Um Okay, here we go. Let's see

what this is.

This is incredible,

guys. What if she's on the run? I love

this.

What if she's on the run?

Like, get a head start.

Yeah, that's true.

NYPD police

officers showed up looking for

They're all on the phone.

Think she is in the hospital, but

thanks. Wait, you think call share. You

think she got a tip off call that this

was happening left.

All right.

Okay. They're all on the phone in the

sprinter van.

All with sunglasses on.

I'm just going to message her.

No one's taking their sunglasses off.

Amy, this is that was one minute

of an entire episode almost.

I can't recommend it enough.

I got to tell you, when you explain it,

it does sound fun. I mean

there is something about Real Housewives

which is like if you didn't get on board

it's like I don't even know where to

start.

I can tell you what season to start with

any city because there are seasons to

miss.

Okay. Okay. That's good to know. I would

I wouldn't mind that cuz I have heard I

mean Los Cultistas Bowen they're

obsessed and they talk a lot about Salt

Lake. Yes.

And I do feel like now might be the time

to start if there's a new season

starting.

If you have 3,000 hours to kill

Now is the time.

Now's the time.

You know, the holidays are coming.

You're going to be all smuggled in.

But I kind of get it. It's like with the

world being like so there's so much like

that these stakes are relative. I mean,

she did go to jail.

She did. She went to jail

and not one person took their sunglasses

off the whole time.

No, Amy. They can't.

Amazing. Amazing. Oh my god. We love

you.

I love you, wig. I'm so grateful you

came and did this. I hope you had a good

time.

I had the best time. Is it over?

Is there anything I I asked you about

hater?

Is there anything else we need to ask?

Thank and thank you to Bill for doing

this. That was really sweet. Sweet Bill.

I know. Love that guy.

I know. And you guys are so good in

Skeleton Twins, by the way. What a great

I mean so many you've done so many great

things like but the the the way in which

you naturally like it's just very

brother sister stuff there.

Totally.

It's so natural there. Do you believe in

past lives before we go? Yes.

You do?

Oh my god. Yes.

And do you feel like there are people in

your life that you've known before?

Oh yeah. Oh fully.

I think especially people in your inner

circle

have been there before. For sure.

Yes. I do too. Like you meet someone and

there is something about you and Bill in

that film that feels very familiar.

I love that. Maybe.

Yeah. I wonder.

I believe in all that stuff.

You do?

What's the most woohoo thing you believe

in? Do you believe in um um

Yes.

I mean, I probably do.

Do you believe in ghosts?

Yes.

Have you seen a ghost?

No, I haven't seen one, but I've felt

them.

There have been times where I've gone

into I can when I go into a place

sometimes I can

you can feel the energy.

Especially if like maybe someone died

there.

Do you believe in astral projection?

Like people visiting each other in

dreams.

Yes,

you do.

Yes. My great aunt visited me in a dream

after she died.

Wow.

Yes totally.

What was that like? What was that?

I woke up and I sobbed and I was like

14,

but I knew

she was there.

Wow.

Yeah.

Wow.

I believe in all that stuff.

I know. What do we know?

What do we know?

I'm trying to be

So much of it is like sciencebased.

Yeah.

Um

I'm trying to be more open and that's

actually a goal of mine is like to try

to be like less of a detective when it

comes to that stuff and just kind of

like open it up into my I don't want any

ghosts. I I want to see

I don't want I don't want to have

anything to do with

I love ghosts. I respect them. I just

don't want to see them.

No. I have had my house ghostbusted

though.

Yes.

A professional ghostbuster

online. Yes.

Okay. Online.

I need to explain. No. My friend had her

house ghostbusted.

Ghostbusted.

And she was telling the story. She's

like, I don't know. I call her. She

lives in New Mexico. I was like, "That's

crazy. What's her number?" Because she

told me things that had happened after

postbust. And I was like, "Oh, this is

interesting."

And we've learned from Psychic Mike that

you will pack up if somebody tells you

to pack up.

I will get out of there. And

I did it. And I swear to God, my house

felt different.

She did it online. I love her though.

That's great.

I love you, Wink. Thanks for doing this

so much. Meant so much. You did it.

Thank you.

Thank you so much, Kristen. You are

awesome. You're just It was so fun to

have you here and like I really do count

myself lucky that I got to be on the

same timeline as you, let alone the same

show as you. And for this Polar Plunge,

you know, we I didn't even know where to

start to talk about the hilarious comedy

that Kristen has has given us over the

years. So, I just I want to take this

time to just remind everybody of all of

the ridiculous, hilarious characters

that Kristen has given to us over the

years. Dunice from the Lawrence Welk

Show and Gilly and Penelopey and um uh

uh who else? Um

um God, so many. we target lady and we

talked about the the lady who couldn't

wait to you know ruin a surprise and

Judy Grimes and um oh my god and and sha

shana shauna the like sexy lady at the

office and um uh the Hollywood dish lady

who spits her water out and Mindy

Grayson the woman who can't get password

I mean this is like I could I can't stop

and and won't stop. Um, but anyway, just

do yourself a favor and look those all

up. I mean, honestly, if you're looking

for something to make you laugh, any

clip from Wig anytime is going to do

that. So, um, thank you so much for, um,

for coming and doing the show, Wig.

Appreciate it. And, uh, thanks so much

for listening and check us out again

soon. Bye.

You've been listening to Good Hang. The

executive producers for this show are

Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss Berman, and

me, Amy Polar. The show is produced by

The Ringer and Paperkite. For the Ringer

production by Jack Wilson, Cat Spalain,

Kaia McMullen, and Aia Xenerys. For

Paperkite, production by Sam Green, Joel

Levelvel, and Jenna Weiss Berman.

Original music by Amy Miles.