Mar 3, 2026 · 1:03:57

Favorite 'Parks and Rec' Memories on Good Hang with Amy Poehler

The Hang, in Short

This clip show brings together all the Parks and Rec alums who've stopped by the podcast while Amy finishes shooting her new Peacock show Dig with Mike Shur. The standout story? When NBC wanted an Office spin-off, Greg Daniels told Ben Silverman he'd only do it if it was genuinely his best idea, not just because they wanted a spin-off. Silverman said "totally hear you, buddy." The next day Variety announced the Office spin-off anyway. Just completely ignored him. So Shur and Daniels met constantly at Norm's Diner in the Valley, bouncing around ideas until the 2008 economy collapsed and satirizing local government suddenly felt urgent. Shur pitched an abandoned lot becoming a park over nine years, very Wire inspired. Greg countered with a pit. Much better. They offered Amy the role right before the Super Bowl episode slot, gave up seven guaranteed episodes and that prime placement just to wait three months for her to give birth. Worth it.

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    Hello everyone. Welcome to another

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    episode of Good Hang. We are continuing

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    our clip package episodes and this is

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    the second of three. So, we will be back

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    with new episodes and guests in just two

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    weeks. But this week, we are putting

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    together uh an amazing episode of all of

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    the people from parks and recreation who

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    have come into the studio and sat and

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    talked to us. And it is a great list. It

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    is Mike Sher, Rashidita Jones, Aziz

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    Ansari, Katherine Han, Paul Rudd, Aubrey

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    Plaza, Adam Scott, and please know there

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    are more coming. In fact, a little

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    teaser, we do have Nick Offererman

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    joining us in season two of this

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    podcast. If there are seasons and

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    podcasts, we are insisting there are.

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    And so, um, you're going to hear from

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    all of these people today. And the

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    reason why we're doing these um these

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    clip shows is because I am finishing up

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    shooting a new show for Peacock called

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    Dig with my buddy Mike Sher who uh as we

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    all know um created Parks and Rex. So

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    let's kick off this episode by hearing

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    from Mike Sher first.

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    >> All I ever wanted was a really good

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    >> in the very very beginning the idea for

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    the spin-off of the office or was it

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    even an idea for spin-off was what?

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    Well, so Bencame Parks and Ben Silverman

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    was running NBC and they asked he asked

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    Greg to like do a spin-off. And so

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    Greg's response typically thoughtful and

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    considered was I would love to do

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    another show. If the best idea that I

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    have for a show is a spin-off, then I

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    will do a spin-off. If the best idea I

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    have is something else, I'll do

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    something else. Greg is a real one of

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    the the main things that he gave me in

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    terms of like how to do this job is best

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    idea wins. Doesn't matter who it comes

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    from. If it's staff writer or a 25-y

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    year veteran co-P or a person who works

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    in costumes or whatever, best idea wins.

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    That's it. No. And there is no uh

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    correlary to that. In every situation

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    that you're in creatively, best idea

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    wins. And so that's what he said

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    basically to Ben. And he was like, "It's

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    very important to me that you understand

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    that if the best idea I have is not a

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    spin-off of The Office, uh, then we're

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    going to do something else." And Ben was

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    like, "Totally hear you, buddy." And the

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    next day in the variety, he was like,

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    "Office spin-off is coming." Then just

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    totally ignored him and just announced

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    an office spin-off.

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    >> Sure.

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    >> So, uh, so Greg and I started meeting.

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    Greg asked me to do it with him. So, we

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    started meeting. We would go to Norm's

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    Diner in the Valley

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    >> uh like twice a week for breakfast

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    >> and we would just think of ideas and we

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    would talk about what interested us and

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    what was going on and we would inch down

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    a little path and then hit a dead end

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    and then inch back and we would um we

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    just met constantly over showing your

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    work. We met all the time forever and

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    eventually

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    came up with the idea of like, you know,

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    and and by the way, just to say it, some

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    of the ideas we talked about were office

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    spin-offs. There were like Craig

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    Robinson and Rain Wilson and all these

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    people on the show who could clearly be

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    on their own show.

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    >> So, we talked about family shows with

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    them or whatever. Greg was, I think,

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    wary of taking assets away from a show

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    that was very successful in part because

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    of its large, rich cast. We stumbled

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    upon this idea of like, okay, Dunder

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    Mifflin on the office is a fake company

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    and it's a way to saterize the private

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    sector. What if we create a whole fake

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    town and sadderize the public sector?

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    And as we're having that idea, the world

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    economy goes kabooy and they're talking

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    about like massive government bailouts

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    and we start to realize that like the

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    government, obviously federal really,

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    but also state and local was like going

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    to be very present in people's lives.

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    I had this idea for an abandoned lot

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    that would be turned into a park over

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    the course of the entire run of the

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    show. Very wirey idea. I was obsessed

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    with the wire as were you.

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    >> Yeah, we're we share that. We um

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    >> um and I thought like the the way that

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    The Wire portrayed like calcified

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    systems and how slow gears grind and

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    stuff was fascinating to me and I

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    thought it would be really funny where

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    in the p if it if you did a show that

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    ideally lasts for a long time and in the

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    pilot it's like we're going to do this

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    and then it literally doesn't get done

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    till the very end of like 9 years later.

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    So that was the idea that I really like.

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    Greg then was like what if it's not a

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    lot? What if there's like a giant hole

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    in the ground? What if it's a pit? And I

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    was like that's so much better. And so

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    that idea of all the 73 ideas we had

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    started to like

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    >> fizzy fizzy up. And it obviously is not

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    a spin-off of The Office. And

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    >> Greg, true to his word, was like, "This

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    is what we want to do." At some point,

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    we called you because we heard you were

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    leaving. And you were like, "I'm

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    theoretically interested in this. Let me

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    know." The show was given a guaranteed

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    13 episode order, which now is very

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    common place at the time was like

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    insane.

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    and The Office was going to be on after

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    the Super Bowl that year and this show

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    was going to launch after The Office.

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    Then you called us back and said,

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    "Actually, sorry, PGO." That's exactly

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    what you said. You saidgo, I I sent you

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    a telegraph.

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    >> Stop.

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    >> Shows off. Stop.

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    >> And it was like, "Well, you're going to

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    give birth like the week we have to

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    shoot this, so no go." And then like I

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    remember very clearly two weeks later I

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    went into Greg's office and I was like

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    you know there's no like we had we were

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    working on the show at that point pretty

  164. 6:30

    strenuously and I was just like I just

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    don't think there's anyone but Polar who

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    can do this and he was like I had the

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    same thought last night and very quickly

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    we made a phone call to NBC and said if

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    we can get Amy for this we will give up

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    seven of the 13 guaranteed episodes cuz

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    we'd only be able to make six.

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    >> Dang.

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    >> And give up the Super Bowl slot. Boy,

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    you guys were I'm so appreciative you

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    did that.

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    >> I mean, it the thing was it was actually

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    a very simple decision because we were

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    like, you know, getting Amy Polar on

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    your show is a long-term decision. Like

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    that's a decision you make for like this

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    what you hope will be a very long chunk

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    of time. Like the Super Bowl slot is a

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    short-term decision. It's like yeah,

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    you'll get this like fisson of of

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    energy, but like it doesn't last. Like

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    no one ever like very rarely does that

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    determine the fate of a TV show. And so

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    we then called you back and said, "What

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    if you could start shooting three months

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    after you give birth?" And then we made

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    the show.

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    >> And it proved to be the most satisfying

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    creative experience I've ever had.

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    >> And I like

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    >> more than this podcast.

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    >> No, this is my number one.

  197. 7:35

    >> Number two, it's number two.

  198. 7:36

    >> Yeah. This is I mean besides this now

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    one of the ways like very concrete ways

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    to that is I feel like an example of

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    what I'm talking about which is like the

  202. 7:45

    joy in the details is the way you like

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    to name characters.

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    >> Yeah. And I think you gave me um I think

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    you allowed me to use this in my book

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    actually, but you gave me like a list of

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    possible names instead of Leslie Nope,

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    the character I played on Parks Rec.

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    Like you gave me like bunch of different

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    alternative names,

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    >> but you also love to name characters

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    left and right. What is it? What is fun

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    about names for you and naming?

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    >> Okay, so it's two things. The first is

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    growing up, first major comedic

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    influence, Monty Python. MontiPython

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    experts at silly stupid names like

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    hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of

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    them. You can go look them up and their

  220. 8:26

    sketches.

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    >> But the actual the actual thing that's

  222. 8:30

    going on here is different. So I would

  223. 8:33

    go to actors IMDb pages to see what they

  224. 8:36

    had been in when we were casting in the

  225. 8:37

    early days of the show and you would see

  226. 8:39

    like woman number two or like man in

  227. 8:42

    crowd or guy with sandwich. And it

  228. 8:46

    really bummed me out. That person like

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    auditioned for this and booked this gig

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    and drove all the way across town and

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    like put on fake clothes and put on

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    makeup and whatever and had to stand in

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    a certain place, follow a million

  234. 8:58

    instructions, say a line or two, and

  235. 9:01

    then they yelled cut, and then that

  236. 9:03

    person drove all the way home and they

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    got paid like $600 for like a week's

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    worth of work.

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    >> And they should be there should be

  240. 9:10

    something better than man number two or

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    man and crowd. Yeah.

  242. 9:13

    >> And so I decided at that moment, this is

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    early in season one I think of Parks

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    Wreck, that every character who appeared

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    on the show was going to have a first

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    and last name. So when you saw

  247. 9:24

    >> instead of if it says man and crowd,

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    you're like, "Oh, well that it doesn't

  249. 9:27

    really count as an acting gig." But if

  250. 9:29

    you see Marv Vavma, which is a name I

  251. 9:32

    gave a character once, you're like, who

  252. 9:34

    the hell is Marv Vavma? What was Marva

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    up to? So I and it has been that was it

  254. 9:42

    started with that intention and has

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    become one of the great truly one of the

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    great joys of my life is to give every

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    because here's the other thing sorry you

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    can cut all this out but the other thing

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    is if you name a character um Jack Smith

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    >> you can get away with it because there

  261. 9:58

    are 10 trillion Jack Smiths but if you

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    name a character anything even mildly

  263. 10:01

    interesting like Winona Cooper there's

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    going to be like four Winona Coopers in

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    the state that you're setting the show

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    in and then the legal comes back and

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    says you can't name your character that.

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    >> A lot of people don't know that you have

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    to get names cleared

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    >> be cleared and there have to be either

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    none or so many that not any one of them

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    could be could think that you're saying

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    anything about them. So I go for none.

  274. 10:23

    >> None.

  275. 10:24

    >> Yeah. I go for the weirdest names. Uh we

  276. 10:28

    had a character recently on the show on

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    a man on the inside named Aphilio

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    Pepipe. There's no Ailia Pipa Pepes

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    anywhere in the continental United

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    States. So, you get to use that name.

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    That has been my goal is to have none

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    have have the Google search come up

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    empty with every name of every

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    character.

  285. 10:46

    >> Okay. With that in mind, will you please

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    read some of these names that you have

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    invented?

  288. 10:51

    >> Yeah.

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    >> Like just a few here on the bottom of

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    this page.

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    >> Okay.

  292. 10:55

    >> Uh Mona Lisa Sapperstein. Yes.

  293. 10:57

    >> Jenny Slate's character.

  294. 10:58

    >> Yes.

  295. 10:58

    >> Uh

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    >> do you remember all these? Amazing.

  297. 11:04

    >> Trod Frankenstein.

  298. 11:06

    >> Okay, tell us about

  299. 11:06

    >> Trod. So Trod Frankenstein was a local

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    reporter or he had a like almost like a

  301. 11:12

    little show like this in Pawane where he

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    would interview political people like

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    Leslie Nope.

  304. 11:17

    >> A a great way to come up with a name

  305. 11:18

    that doesn't exist is to take a normal

  306. 11:20

    name like Todd and then just stick

  307. 11:21

    another letter in there somewhere. Trod

  308. 11:24

    and then Frankenstein is just

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    Frankenstein with a P at the end. Uh

  310. 11:28

    Tyrion Fonzerelli. Tyrion Fonzerelli.

  311. 11:31

    Obviously a combination of two

  312. 11:33

    characters from TV history. Tyrion

  313. 11:35

    Lannister and Arthur Fonerelli. This

  314. 11:38

    name goes to Matt Murray. Matt Murray

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    did this.

  316. 11:40

    >> Ah, Panther.

  317. 11:41

    >> Yeah, Panther. Matt Tyrion Fonerelli was

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    right around Parks and Wreck among other

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    things.

  320. 11:46

    >> Was a guy in a jewelry store who was

  321. 11:48

    buying a um an engagement ring for his

  322. 11:52

    to be betrothed when an and Chris Trager

  323. 11:56

    were shopping for rings.

  324. 11:57

    >> Great. Uh Leslie, nope. We know who that

  325. 11:59

    is. Gretzky Susan Pellegrino. Okay, this

  326. 12:04

    so

  327. 12:06

    >> Gretzky Susan Pelgrino was like the

  328. 12:08

    fourth in a series of names that that

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    for some reason all involve the last

  330. 12:12

    name of the greatest hockey player who

  331. 12:14

    ever lived, Wayne Gretzky. I don't

  332. 12:16

    offhand remember who Gretzky Susan

  333. 12:17

    Pellegrino is. Also, it should be noted

  334. 12:19

    hyphens huge part of my naming process.

  335. 12:22

    >> Yeah. So exciting.

  336. 12:23

    >> It's a way to get another name in there.

  337. 12:25

    >> Another name. And also, there's no way

  338. 12:26

    that someone's going to have this name.

  339. 12:28

    >> No one's first name is Gretzky Susan.

  340. 12:30

    Gretzky hyphen Susan.

  341. 12:32

    >> Typhoon Montelbond.

  342. 12:34

    >> Oh, I love Typhoon.

  343. 12:35

    >> Typhoon was uh was Don's hairdresser.

  344. 12:37

    >> Yep.

  345. 12:38

    >> Uh Ty Typhoon also Matt Murray, I

  346. 12:41

    believe, named gave Typhoon the first

  347. 12:43

    name Typhoon. We needed a last name.

  348. 12:45

    Where do you go for the last name?

  349. 12:46

    Ricardo Monttobon. Typhoon. Monttobond.

  350. 12:49

    Cassandra Sassnanorp. Okay. Cassandra

  351. 12:52

    Sassnorp was I believe I could have this

  352. 12:54

    wrong. was just Sandra. It was like

  353. 12:56

    Sandra Snorp.

  354. 12:58

    >> Okay.

  355. 12:58

    >> And then the legal was like doesn't

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    didn't clear. We found a Sandra Snorp.

  357. 13:02

    So guess what you do? You add five more

  358. 13:03

    S's. Now you're good.

  359. 13:05

    >> Sandra

  360. 13:05

    >> Sandra Sassnorp.

  361. 13:07

    >> Summer Ole Kraken Frogfrong. Okay. This

  362. 13:10

    is a MontiPython ripoff straight up.

  363. 13:12

    >> Okay.

  364. 13:13

    >> Um Olay O E with an accent. And uh and I

  365. 13:18

    guess just that part in there's a

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    there's a MontiPython sketch called I

  367. 13:22

    think election night special where

  368. 13:24

    they're just going through election

  369. 13:25

    election results and local elections all

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    over the country. And there's a there's

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    a a silly party and a sensible party. So

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    all the people in the sensible party

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    have names like John Smith and all the

  374. 13:36

    people in the silly party have very

  375. 13:38

    crazy names. And there's also a very

  376. 13:40

    silly party and a slightly silly party.

  377. 13:43

    It's if you want names, go watch that

  378. 13:46

    sketch. It'll it'll uh it'll it'll sate

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    you. Summer, Olay, Krak, and Frog Frog.

  380. 13:52

    That's a good one. Frog Frog is a great

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    last one.

  382. 13:55

    >> Yeah.

  383. 13:57

    >> Okay. So, do you think some of your best

  384. 13:59

    acting was in Parks and Wreck when you

  385. 14:02

    had to pretend that you didn't know who

  386. 14:04

    Genuine was?

  387. 14:05

    >> You know, it's it's still one of my

  388. 14:07

    biggest complaints. I remember we did

  389. 14:09

    the table read for that and I was like,

  390. 14:11

    "No, no, no one's gonna buy it because I

  391. 14:14

    don't buy it." Okay, pick anybody else

  392. 14:17

    on this cast to to try to play that in

  393. 14:20

    an honest way. It is so unfair that

  394. 14:23

    you're making me do this. It really

  395. 14:25

    Yeah, it still hurts

  396. 14:26

    >> because how how how familiar are you

  397. 14:29

    with genuine? You were married.

  398. 14:34

    >> Um I mean, you know, I live in '90s R&B.

  399. 14:39

    That's where my heart is. It's not here.

  400. 14:42

    I mean, it is with you, but and for the

  401. 14:44

    most part, it's part it's not present.

  402. 14:46

    It's in '90s R&B. So,

  403. 14:48

    >> he's a very important figure.

  404. 14:50

    >> Yeah. I feel like we have had some hard

  405. 14:53

    ass laughs. And I was trying to think

  406. 14:55

    the other day like places that we've

  407. 14:57

    laughed a deep laughs and it's it really

  408. 15:01

    does add years to my life. I know that.

  409. 15:04

    And I I wonder if you could tell the

  410. 15:07

    story about um when we were on um Parks

  411. 15:11

    and it was because we talked about it,

  412. 15:13

    we've talked about it before. when we

  413. 15:15

    were in parks and it was the first

  414. 15:17

    season. It was the hunting episode

  415. 15:20

    >> and just kind of set up uh we were

  416. 15:23

    shooting that whole week way far away

  417. 15:25

    somewhere in California, you know, I

  418. 15:29

    don't even remember where

  419. 15:30

    >> and we had to do a scene with Nick

  420. 15:32

    Offerman and that I think about it

  421. 15:34

    sometimes the way that laugh came. It

  422. 15:36

    was like it was giggle giggle orgasm

  423. 15:40

    city. But um but but uh don't worry,

  424. 15:42

    we'll cut that. But

  425. 15:46

    but um what do you remember about it?

  426. 15:48

    What do you want?

  427. 15:49

    >> Well, I remember we were he maybe ate

  428. 15:52

    something weird and we were trying to

  429. 15:53

    give him Ipac.

  430. 15:55

    >> So Nick Offererman playing Ron Swanson

  431. 15:57

    ate something. Yeah. I don't remember

  432. 15:59

    actually what happened in the show.

  433. 16:01

    >> I was like determined as a nurse that I

  434. 16:03

    was like you have to throw up. Like you

  435. 16:05

    can't right you're gonna get sick. And

  436. 16:06

    he's like I'm fine, right? And I we were

  437. 16:09

    trying to get this like liquid in his

  438. 16:11

    mouth and you know it's Hollywood so um

  439. 16:15

    things that happen like on camera don't

  440. 16:18

    actually happen in real life. So it was

  441. 16:20

    written that we like hold him down and

  442. 16:23

    he's resisting us and we give him this

  443. 16:25

    this thing. But

  444. 16:29

    like you don't know you don't know how

  445. 16:32

    small you are cuz I think both of us

  446. 16:34

    like I'm always like I'm like a tall

  447. 16:36

    person right? Like I ask people if if I

  448. 16:38

    feel tall, but I'm not.

  449. 16:39

    >> And I'm not. And I'm And I'm

  450. 16:40

    >> How tall are you?

  451. 16:41

    >> 53 and a half.

  452. 16:42

    >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm 5'2.

  453. 16:44

    >> And And And Nick is solid.

  454. 16:46

    >> Yeah.

  455. 16:46

    >> He's a solid dude.

  456. 16:48

    >> Yeah. He's like a Midwestern cornfed

  457. 16:51

    dude.

  458. 16:51

    >> Dense and like and muscular. And he

  459. 16:54

    >> we were trying to hold him down and he

  460. 16:56

    was whipping us around with such ease.

  461. 17:00

    Like we couldn't we actually the both of

  462. 17:02

    us could not hold him down. And he was

  463. 17:04

    like literally just go beep and we would

  464. 17:07

    just fly off the bed in each direction.

  465. 17:09

    We could not stop.

  466. 17:10

    >> One of us, we each had one arm.

  467. 17:13

    >> Yeah.

  468. 17:13

    >> And he would, it felt like just the

  469. 17:16

    flick of a wrist.

  470. 17:18

    He was being gentle.

  471. 17:19

    >> Yeah. He wasn't doing He wasn't fighting

  472. 17:21

    for his life.

  473. 17:22

    >> Yeah. No. No.

  474. 17:23

    >> And we could not get him to stay down.

  475. 17:26

    >> Could not. Could not.

  476. 17:27

    >> And I remember that feeling. Also, I

  477. 17:29

    think there's something fun about

  478. 17:30

    wrestling. Like there is so it's so good

  479. 17:33

    and being thrown around is so fun.

  480. 17:35

    >> Yes. and he was throwing us around and I

  481. 17:39

    feel like I just like if I was to

  482. 17:41

    picture it in my mind you were just like

  483. 17:43

    like I could just see you going past me

  484. 17:45

    and your hair going and then your legs

  485. 17:47

    going and

  486. 17:50

    me and I just remember like I remember

  487. 17:53

    seeing you flying by which can't be true

  488. 17:57

    but

  489. 17:57

    >> I feel like we were tumbling all over

  490. 17:59

    the floor like every time we got back on

  491. 18:00

    the bed we were like t and we were we

  492. 18:02

    were kind of like in each we were both

  493. 18:05

    trying to be like on top of him and then

  494. 18:07

    like just flipping over really quickly.

  495. 18:10

    >> And I think too because Nick is such a

  496. 18:11

    lovely gentle guy in general, we knew

  497. 18:14

    there was something about us that knew

  498. 18:15

    we weren't going to get hurt and but he

  499. 18:17

    was making like grunting bear sounds.

  500. 18:22

    >> It was really really really fun.

  501. 18:24

    >> That was a really I mean I'm trying to

  502. 18:25

    think of like there was so many good

  503. 18:27

    crackup moments. Crackup moments. I'm

  504. 18:29

    100 years old.

  505. 18:30

    >> What a crackup. But I'm just like I was

  506. 18:33

    like

  507. 18:34

    >> there's that spot in in uh Andy and

  508. 18:37

    April's house. Remember where we could

  509. 18:39

    never get a scene done? Just that one

  510. 18:41

    that living room

  511. 18:42

    >> spot. Yeah. It was haunted.

  512. 18:44

    >> Yeah. And then I remember there was one

  513. 18:45

    time you were like Rashida cuz I could

  514. 18:47

    not get through it. But I really It felt

  515. 18:49

    like haunted. It did not feel like it

  516. 18:51

    was my fault.

  517. 18:52

    >> Yeah. I'm sorry I said that. There was I

  518. 18:54

    a couple times I would see bloopers for

  519. 18:55

    the show and I'd be like Amy.

  520. 18:57

    >> No, but those days were so long. They

  521. 18:59

    were long and it was fun until it

  522. 19:01

    wasn't. You're like, "Oh my god, it's 10

  523. 19:02

    p.m. We just want to go home."

  524. 19:03

    >> I know. And the And there was a scene

  525. 19:06

    for people that um care. There was there

  526. 19:10

    was a a spot in that on that set where

  527. 19:13

    anyone who stood there couldn't get

  528. 19:14

    their lines and then of course it became

  529. 19:16

    self-fulfilling prophecy in many ways.

  530. 19:18

    >> Yeah.

  531. 19:19

    >> But there was just a lot of um deep

  532. 19:23

    laughs and deep um and deep laughs off

  533. 19:27

    camera. Like one of the thing one of the

  534. 19:28

    things I treasure And there's so many

  535. 19:32

    things I treasure about my friendship

  536. 19:33

    with you was that we would be talking

  537. 19:37

    like this and we'd be just talking and

  538. 19:39

    talking and just like talking about our

  539. 19:40

    day and talking about life and then they

  540. 19:41

    would just go or action and then we

  541. 19:43

    would just talk like Leslie and we'd do

  542. 19:45

    our scene and be like we kind I'll speak

  543. 19:48

    for myself kind of knew it kind of

  544. 19:49

    didn't

  545. 19:50

    >> and then they'd then they'd cut they'd

  546. 19:53

    work on it and we would just go back to

  547. 19:55

    talking like it was like a dream job. We

  548. 19:57

    filmed in between our conversations and

  549. 20:00

    also I think I remember very clearly in

  550. 20:02

    the pilot because we had already been

  551. 20:04

    friends for years when we shot the pilot

  552. 20:06

    and they were doing one of those spy

  553. 20:08

    shots and we were in your office and we

  554. 20:09

    were talking and it was like you know

  555. 20:12

    other people were like oh this is great

  556. 20:14

    like this is a thing that really works

  557. 20:15

    their friendship we're really going to

  558. 20:16

    be able to sell it and we're like uh duh

  559. 20:18

    >> duh no kidding

  560. 20:19

    >> what do you mean

  561. 20:20

    >> I mean they really did base the entire

  562. 20:22

    show at the end of the day on the fact

  563. 20:25

    that Leslie and an were, you know, each

  564. 20:27

    other's number one.

  565. 20:28

    >> Yeah.

  566. 20:28

    >> Yeah.

  567. 20:30

    >> Not hard to do.

  568. 20:31

    >> No. And what I mean, we've talked about

  569. 20:34

    this before, but we when we first

  570. 20:36

    started the show, I think it was like it

  571. 20:39

    was kind of like we were trying to

  572. 20:40

    figure out who was going to play what

  573. 20:42

    part and who was going to come on board.

  574. 20:46

    And um

  575. 20:48

    and kind of like the beginnings of that

  576. 20:51

    show were

  577. 20:53

    I'll say a little clumy,

  578. 20:54

    >> crunchy, crunchy. crunchy. Can we talk

  579. 20:58

    about it? Yeah, I'd love to. Oh my god.

  580. 21:00

    >> Yeah, it was crunchy

  581. 21:01

    >> because I think for I I don't think a

  582. 21:02

    lot of people know this. For the

  583. 21:04

    beginning, I think we both were worried

  584. 21:07

    that we had taken each other's part

  585. 21:10

    >> like Yes. So, so I had been on hold for

  586. 21:15

    this untitled thing that was going to

  587. 21:18

    that Greg and Mike were going to write,

  588. 21:19

    right? And I had done a year on the

  589. 21:21

    office and they let me go which made

  590. 21:25

    sense. It was it made sense. I was

  591. 21:26

    >> You had such a tough job there because

  592. 21:29

    Yeah.

  593. 21:29

    >> Everybody wanted Jim and Pam and then

  594. 21:31

    guess who shows up? A very likable cool

  595. 21:34

    and everyone was like, "Oh no, wait. I

  596. 21:36

    love Karen."

  597. 21:37

    >> It did not feel that way. People did not

  598. 21:39

    like me. Like fans were not about it.

  599. 21:42

    But they had to create tension for the

  600. 21:44

    relationship to be earned later. So I

  601. 21:46

    was the third point in the triangle.

  602. 21:47

    It's fine. I like accept it. But anyway,

  603. 21:50

    so Mike was like, "We're working on this

  604. 21:51

    other show. I'll put you on hold. We

  605. 21:54

    don't know what it is yet." Remember,

  606. 21:55

    people thought it was like a spin-off of

  607. 21:57

    The Office for a second.

  608. 21:58

    >> But anyway, so they kept like kind of

  609. 22:01

    decide like changing the the car the

  610. 22:03

    main characters of the show. When they

  611. 22:04

    pitched it to me, the boss was a was a

  612. 22:06

    guy

  613. 22:07

    >> and they didn't know if they were going

  614. 22:09

    to cast me or not. But I remember you

  615. 22:11

    were extremely pregnant.

  616. 22:13

    >> Yeah.

  617. 22:13

    >> We had just gotten back from Italy.

  618. 22:16

    >> You and I were in Italy. That's right.

  619. 22:18

    >> We were in Italy and it was very hot.

  620. 22:20

    >> That's right.

  621. 22:21

    >> And a day later,

  622. 22:23

    >> you were like, "Let's go to lunch. I

  623. 22:25

    need to talk to you about something."

  624. 22:25

    >> Do you remember where we went?

  625. 22:26

    >> Past.

  626. 22:27

    >> Yes, I do.

  627. 22:28

    >> In New York City.

  628. 22:29

    >> I do.

  629. 22:30

    >> Oh, God. And I said, "Let's talk about

  630. 22:31

    something

  631. 22:33

    >> dear."

  632. 22:34

    >> No, no, no. You

  633. 22:35

    >> And I was like, I want you to raise this

  634. 22:36

    baby with me.

  635. 22:38

    >> It's yours.

  636. 22:40

    >> This baby is yours. I know. And you need

  637. 22:41

    to accept it. Um, but you no I actually

  638. 22:44

    hold this this moment as like a gold

  639. 22:46

    standard of friendship and being able to

  640. 22:49

    take care of your oneself and the person

  641. 22:52

    that you love at the same time. I really

  642. 22:53

    do, Polos, because it was what you did

  643. 22:56

    and how you did it was very hard because

  644. 22:58

    you took me to lunch and said, "I'm so

  645. 23:00

    sorry, but they offered me the part."

  646. 23:02

    Both of us thinking it was the same part

  647. 23:04

    I was on hold for

  648. 23:06

    >> being created by a friend of ours. And

  649. 23:08

    so I immediately started crying in

  650. 23:10

    besties and you held my hand and you

  651. 23:13

    were so warm and you were so there was

  652. 23:16

    something about it where you were like I

  653. 23:18

    know I'm sorry buddy but you also you

  654. 23:20

    didn't like do the thing that I

  655. 23:21

    sometimes do where I'm codependent where

  656. 23:23

    I'm like I know I suck. I'm the worst

  657. 23:25

    person. I don't even deserve it. Like

  658. 23:26

    whatever I would say to try to make the

  659. 23:28

    other person feel better which doesn't

  660. 23:30

    work. You didn't do that. you like held

  661. 23:32

    your space and you also comforted me at

  662. 23:34

    the same time which was like a very

  663. 23:37

    beautiful thing.

  664. 23:38

    >> I wonder what Sh's version of this is.

  665. 23:41

    >> Let me tell you because I left him a

  666. 23:43

    message almost immediately cuz I'm not

  667. 23:46

    shy. I was and I was like, "Oh, I'm such

  668. 23:48

    an idiot for thinking I could even be on

  669. 23:50

    the show. Like, anybody wants me on this

  670. 23:52

    show." Of course, I didn't get this.

  671. 23:53

    Like Amy is like a, you know,

  672. 23:55

    >> what a mean part of yourself to be.

  673. 23:57

    >> Very mean. Very mean. That's a that's a

  674. 23:59

    person we're trying to um to not invite

  675. 24:01

    to the dinner party anymore. But um so I

  676. 24:04

    I called him. I was like, "Hey, would

  677. 24:06

    love to talk to you." He was on a plane.

  678. 24:08

    >> And he landed. He's like, "Uh" I was

  679. 24:10

    like, "Mhm. You want to you want to tell

  680. 24:12

    me what's going on cuz it would have

  681. 24:13

    been really nice for you to tell me and

  682. 24:14

    not Amy to tell me that I wasn't getting

  683. 24:16

    this job." And he's like, "No, no, no.

  684. 24:18

    Back up. We changed the boss. It's a

  685. 24:20

    woman and Amy's playing the boss." And I

  686. 24:22

    was like, "You

  687. 24:24

    Oh my god. Like we might be working

  688. 24:27

    together." Yes. It kind of went from oh

  689. 24:29

    no to oh my god, we might be the two

  690. 24:32

    women on the show.

  691. 24:34

    >> Yes. And I still wasn't cast because I

  692. 24:36

    still had to do a bunch of chemistry

  693. 24:38

    reads after that. But but that became,

  694. 24:40

    you know, this huge possibility of like

  695. 24:44

    my life being the best from the worst to

  696. 24:47

    the best.

  697. 24:48

    >> God, I'm sweating even thinking about

  698. 24:50

    that. He wasn't they had they just

  699. 24:51

    hadn't decided things and and they they

  700. 24:53

    were trying to build around you I think

  701. 24:55

    is what happened around that character.

  702. 24:57

    So I think they had just done that and I

  703. 24:59

    think you wanted to tell me as soon as

  704. 25:01

    possible because we were so close

  705. 25:04

    >> which was the right instinct and Mike

  706. 25:06

    decided to get on a plane which was his

  707. 25:09

    instinct

  708. 25:10

    >> and he just flew for hours. He just went

  709. 25:13

    to different cities and he never got off

  710. 25:14

    the plane. And that's what exacts do.

  711. 25:17

    That's what a powerful person does is

  712. 25:19

    they get on the plane.

  713. 25:19

    >> They just get on as many planes as

  714. 25:21

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  743. 26:28

    >> Your little Zezy is all grown up.

  744. 26:29

    >> I know. My Zezy is just a He's an old

  745. 26:33

    man now.

  746. 26:33

    >> I know. If you watch if whenever I see

  747. 26:36

    old parks things I was like I didn't

  748. 26:37

    know that me and Aubrey did a show and

  749. 26:39

    we were little kids like it's really

  750. 26:42

    >> I know. How old were you when you

  751. 26:44

    started on show?

  752. 26:44

    >> I was 13 in season

  753. 26:47

    and then when we finished I just turned

  754. 26:49

    18. I I got my driver's license like in

  755. 26:52

    the middle of the run.

  756. 26:53

    >> A lot of people don't know that you were

  757. 26:54

    18 when you were playing Tom Hammerford

  758. 26:56

    on Parks and Rec.

  759. 26:57

    >> Yeah.

  760. 26:57

    >> It is true though. It is. You You look

  761. 27:00

    like a baby. You were a baby.

  762. 27:04

    I didn't know anything. I the first

  763. 27:06

    seasons I I didn't know how to act or

  764. 27:08

    anything. I should not have been on

  765. 27:10

    television. NBC should have been like,

  766. 27:11

    "We got to get Is there any Indian guy

  767. 27:13

    that's done more acting?"

  768. 27:15

    >> A lot of people don't know you were the

  769. 27:16

    first person hired for Parks.

  770. 27:18

    >> Uh yeah, I met with them. And

  771. 27:20

    >> what was that meeting like? Do you

  772. 27:21

    remember it?

  773. 27:22

    >> Well, it was so mysterious what they

  774. 27:23

    were up to. I had a meeting with them

  775. 27:26

    and I told them, "I don't know what

  776. 27:27

    you're doing, but whatever it is, that

  777. 27:29

    would be a dream job." And um and you

  778. 27:34

    know this was like when The Office was

  779. 27:36

    on and Mike and Greg were both involved

  780. 27:38

    in that and that was you know my

  781. 27:39

    favorite show like that on the air and

  782. 27:41

    and so I told him whatever you're up to

  783. 27:43

    let me know. And then of course

  784. 27:45

    >> you know when it all came together with

  785. 27:47

    you and Rashidita and everything and and

  786. 27:49

    >> well I'm kind of learning when I was

  787. 27:50

    talking to Plaza when Plaza was here she

  788. 27:52

    was uh talking about like her meeting

  789. 27:54

    with them too and

  790. 27:56

    >> yeah very famous stories. Yeah. Yeah.

  791. 27:58

    >> I know. And it's kind of funny. I kind

  792. 28:00

    of forgot the Avengers Assemble feeling

  793. 28:02

    of those guys going out and and getting

  794. 28:05

    people and bringing them in and and

  795. 28:08

    talking about like we're going to do

  796. 28:09

    something very cool. I mean, it it was

  797. 28:11

    it didn't even feel like there was a ton

  798. 28:13

    of auditioning. It was more just them

  799. 28:15

    picking people that they thought was

  800. 28:17

    funny. not only funny and I I feel like

  801. 28:21

    all of us whenever we see each other do

  802. 28:23

    interviews kind of say this kind of

  803. 28:24

    stuff at nauseium but it's so true but

  804. 28:26

    also just the best people I've ever met

  805. 28:29

    in my life.

  806. 28:30

    >> Yeah.

  807. 28:30

    >> Like really I cannot believe it cuz

  808. 28:32

    we've all done other stuff and you know

  809. 28:35

    not everybody's you know look we've all

  810. 28:38

    done other stuff. I don't talk about

  811. 28:39

    everything the way I talk about parts.

  812. 28:42

    you know, you do some things and some

  813. 28:44

    people different energy, not necessarily

  814. 28:45

    mean or bad, but just something like we

  815. 28:47

    all just clicked and there was a vibe

  816. 28:49

    that worked with all of us and and and

  817. 28:51

    just to pay respect to you and Mike, you

  818. 28:54

    know, when I did Master None with Allan

  819. 28:56

    and as I become a director, I I you

  820. 28:59

    know, what I learned from you and Mike

  821. 29:01

    in terms of how to lead um I mean, I

  822. 29:04

    can't thank you enough. It was the the

  823. 29:06

    best role model I could ever have. sees.

  824. 29:12

    Let me see if you can guess how many

  825. 29:13

    times how many episodes of Parks you

  826. 29:15

    did. Do you do you would you know to

  827. 29:17

    guess?

  828. 29:18

    >> I would say

  829. 29:20

    between seven and 13.

  830. 29:22

    >> Yeah, 10.

  831. 29:23

    >> 10. Okay. Between seven and 13. That was

  832. 29:28

    my It's kind of right between That's

  833. 29:30

    amazing.

  834. 29:32

    But it was such a huge impact on my

  835. 29:34

    life. Like it's still the thing I get

  836. 29:36

    most recognized for.

  837. 29:38

    >> Really?

  838. 29:38

    >> Yes.

  839. 29:39

    >> And I just remember Well, first of all,

  840. 29:41

    you were the most incredible number one

  841. 29:43

    on a call sheet because you had dance

  842. 29:45

    parties at lunch every day and anybody

  843. 29:48

    that walked on that like set just was

  844. 29:51

    filled with such confidence and such

  845. 29:54

    joy, which is I had the greatest time on

  846. 29:58

    that show. I have such I don't have the

  847. 30:00

    greatest that's where we kind of fell in

  848. 30:02

    love

  849. 30:02

    >> but that is re that's really Katherine

  850. 30:04

    where we I think actually met my first

  851. 30:06

    kind of like real memory is in the

  852. 30:08

    trailer of parks and wreck and

  853. 30:11

    >> we used to Katherine is talking about

  854. 30:13

    dance parties and we used to do a thing

  855. 30:15

    where just like after lunch we would

  856. 30:17

    play three songs best

  857. 30:18

    >> the great Autumn Butler our makeup

  858. 30:20

    artist

  859. 30:21

    >> had great taste in music and we would

  860. 30:22

    just kind of dance around for two or

  861. 30:24

    three songs.

  862. 30:25

    >> Yeah. the best.

  863. 30:26

    >> I think for me, a way to honestly just

  864. 30:28

    keep my energy up.

  865. 30:29

    >> Yeah.

  866. 30:30

    >> But it became a way to meet people in

  867. 30:32

    the trailer. And I remember two things I

  868. 30:35

    loved about you right away. How much you

  869. 30:37

    love to laugh. People that know you know

  870. 30:39

    that like you you laugh. If someone's

  871. 30:42

    going to break in a scene, it's this

  872. 30:45

    professional over here.

  873. 30:46

    >> You know you I don't Do you think you

  874. 30:48

    break a lot?

  875. 30:48

    >> I have to be really serious in my mind.

  876. 30:51

    Like if I have because if it starts to

  877. 30:53

    happen it is tears.

  878. 30:56

    >> Yeah.

  879. 30:56

    >> And mucus.

  880. 30:57

    >> But you I have seen you in bloopers and

  881. 31:00

    you're hanging in.

  882. 31:01

    >> Yeah. I do hang in.

  883. 31:02

    >> You hang in.

  884. 31:03

    >> I do. Yeah.

  885. 31:04

    >> You in fact go in harder. I think when

  886. 31:06

    people are

  887. 31:07

    >> I have to I know it's a survival

  888. 31:09

    technique. I just have to dig in a

  889. 31:11

    little bit. I do. I go harder.

  890. 31:13

    >> I feel like every time I've done a scene

  891. 31:15

    with you, you are so good at

  892. 31:18

    improvising. In fact, like a lot of your

  893. 31:21

    character on Parks and Rec, Jen

  894. 31:23

    Barkley's moments were improvised.

  895. 31:26

    >> Were they really?

  896. 31:27

    >> Well, my one of the favorites, one of

  897. 31:28

    one of Tik Tok and memes and gifts and

  898. 31:32

    show his poncho.

  899. 31:33

    >> Poncho was

  900. 31:34

    >> So, let's talk about what happened for

  901. 31:35

    people that have never seen that. What

  902. 31:36

    What is it? What? Tell us what that

  903. 31:38

    scene was.

  904. 31:39

    >> Well, I went to Ben and Leslie's house.

  905. 31:42

    Um, I'm speaking as Jen Barkley, my

  906. 31:44

    character. I'm the first person now.

  907. 31:45

    >> Well, for people that aren't watching,

  908. 31:47

    she just transformed. just transform.

  909. 31:49

    >> Her eyes turned dark and she's a

  910. 31:50

    completely different person.

  911. 31:51

    >> A lot more hairspray.

  912. 31:53

    I went to their house. They have

  913. 31:54

    children. Uh I am not into children at

  914. 31:57

    all. I wore a plastic poncho so that I

  915. 32:03

    wouldn't get any sticky fingers or crap

  916. 32:05

    all over me. And at some point the kids

  917. 32:07

    rush by with paint, nail me with the

  918. 32:10

    paint. And it's some take just to make

  919. 32:13

    you guys laugh. I DON'T EVEN DID NOT

  920. 32:14

    HAVE ANY IDEA it was going to be any. I

  921. 32:17

    just swung my arms open. I went poncho

  922. 32:20

    poncho. And that really has become

  923. 32:23

    >> it has it's like Batman's cape.

  924. 32:27

    >> I mean,

  925. 32:28

    >> oh that was the best. Like I just

  926. 32:29

    wanting to make you guys laugh and just

  927. 32:31

    having so the the energy is so loose. So

  928. 32:34

    I like it's funny you say that

  929. 32:35

    improvising again. I can do it if I know

  930. 32:38

    who I am and like the given

  931. 32:39

    circumstances and like that I feel like

  932. 32:42

    I feel really free in that department.

  933. 32:45

    But just

  934. 32:46

    >> well, you know how like we we were on

  935. 32:48

    set a lot and I would watch you work and

  936. 32:49

    I would say the same thing about Adam

  937. 32:50

    and I wonder too if it's because of your

  938. 32:53

    both of your training, but I would watch

  939. 32:56

    the way you two worked

  940. 32:59

    and you would have a moment where we

  941. 33:03

    you'd stay really really loose and but

  942. 33:06

    just right before the scene and I can

  943. 33:07

    think of a couple scenes the great scene

  944. 33:10

    >> where Jen Barkley is telling Leslie no

  945. 33:12

    basically you know you have to start.

  946. 33:15

    >> Oh,

  947. 33:15

    >> you have to start thinking bigger, which

  948. 33:17

    is a huge moment in the show. I love the

  949. 33:20

    writing in that scene. Oh my god, that

  950. 33:21

    scene.

  951. 33:22

    >> Mike Sher and the writers like I just

  952. 33:23

    love how they slowly took care of Leslie

  953. 33:27

    and they sent people in

  954. 33:29

    >> to give her these messages

  955. 33:31

    >> and Jen Barkley is just this like Gen X.

  956. 33:35

    >> Yes.

  957. 33:35

    >> Um ballbuster.

  958. 33:37

    >> Yes.

  959. 33:37

    >> Who who kind of sees something that

  960. 33:40

    Leslie doesn't. Anyway, in that moment

  961. 33:42

    when you're giving that speech, I

  962. 33:43

    remember very clearly right before the

  963. 33:45

    scene, you just took a moment and I

  964. 33:50

    think we joked about it later because I

  965. 33:53

    was like it was like watching

  966. 33:55

    it was watching a a real actor.

  967. 33:58

    >> Oh god.

  968. 34:01

    >> You were on Parks and Wreck. You only

  969. 34:04

    did five episodes. Do you know that?

  970. 34:05

    >> I know.

  971. 34:06

    >> Um but you played a character that stood

  972. 34:09

    the test of time. I mean

  973. 34:11

    I mean if only if only we had Bobby

  974. 34:13

    Newport. Just a a guy who wants to be

  975. 34:16

    liked.

  976. 34:17

    >> Yeah.

  977. 34:17

    >> And who

  978. 34:18

    >> I know. If only, right?

  979. 34:20

    >> I mean Bobby at the time

  980. 34:22

    >> means well just doesn't quite grasp any

  981. 34:24

    of it.

  982. 34:24

    >> He wants to go to the afterparty.

  983. 34:26

    >> Yeah.

  984. 34:26

    >> Bobby Newport played by you was the like

  985. 34:29

    the rich son of the um Swedom's family.

  986. 34:34

    the the family, the Newports that owned

  987. 34:36

    the big factory in the fictional town of

  988. 34:38

    Panee that Parks and Wreck took place

  989. 34:40

    and Bobby Newport ran against Leslie and

  990. 34:43

    it was like what Bobby had that Leslie

  991. 34:46

    could never get was that

  992. 34:49

    Gwiz like I can't believe I fell into

  993. 34:52

    this like I just want to have a good

  994. 34:54

    time you guys.

  995. 34:55

    >> Yeah, I think that's even a line that

  996. 34:59

    that's how Bobby feels about abortion,

  997. 35:00

    isn't it?

  998. 35:00

    >> Oh yeah, right. What did he say about

  999. 35:01

    abortion? I guess my thoughts on

  1000. 35:03

    abortion are just like want everybody to

  1001. 35:05

    just have have a good time.

  1002. 35:07

    >> Just want everybody to have a good time.

  1003. 35:09

    I mean, come on, guys.

  1004. 35:10

    >> What?

  1005. 35:11

    >> And Bobby kept getting flustered by

  1006. 35:14

    Leslie wanting it cuz he wants it. Like

  1007. 35:17

    there's that great scene where he's

  1008. 35:18

    like, "Can you just drop out of the race

  1009. 35:20

    cuz I want it."

  1010. 35:21

    >> Yeah. Yeah.

  1011. 35:22

    >> I want it.

  1012. 35:23

    >> I want it. Come on. Please. You could do

  1013. 35:25

    it. Just do it. Come on.

  1014. 35:29

    >> And people are like, I don't I love the

  1015. 35:30

    guy. He's great and he doesn't seem to

  1016. 35:32

    want it.

  1017. 35:33

    >> Yeah. And he doesn't know anything. But

  1018. 35:35

    that neither do I.

  1019. 35:36

    >> That's, you know,

  1020. 35:37

    >> you're Leslie No is capable and great

  1021. 35:41

    for that job. Bobby Newport is not.

  1022. 35:43

    >> No. And Bobby was I think was thinking

  1023. 35:45

    like maybe I'll just get it and then

  1024. 35:47

    Leslie you can do it.

  1025. 35:48

    >> Yeah. How about that? That's a good

  1026. 35:50

    compromise.

  1027. 35:52

    >> What do What are your memories of doing

  1028. 35:53

    that character was such a funny

  1029. 35:55

    character. You were so great.

  1030. 35:56

    >> Thank you Amy. My memories of that were

  1031. 35:59

    I can't believe I get to work with my

  1032. 36:02

    favorite people in the world. You and

  1033. 36:05

    Adam and Catherine, Rashida and like it

  1034. 36:10

    was like this is the dream. I mean this

  1035. 36:12

    is the you know I remember when you were

  1036. 36:15

    talking to Tina on the very first

  1037. 36:17

    episode you did where you were saying

  1038. 36:18

    you feel like the how the great thing

  1039. 36:22

    that can happen if you are able to

  1040. 36:24

    sustain enough of a career

  1041. 36:26

    >> that you you can get to a point where

  1042. 36:28

    you work with your friends or you get to

  1043. 36:31

    work with people you really like

  1044. 36:33

    >> because it's not work it's just it's

  1045. 36:36

    it's just the best and I mean it was

  1046. 36:38

    such a fun character obviously and the

  1047. 36:40

    show is so great and you're so great in

  1048. 36:42

    it. Um, it was it was it was just

  1049. 36:47

    >> it was a dream. It was a dream and you

  1050. 36:50

    know and I was

  1051. 36:51

    >> uh I loved it. I loved every second of

  1052. 36:53

    it. I loved

  1053. 36:54

    >> hanging out with all you guys.

  1054. 36:57

    >> So fun.

  1055. 36:57

    >> It was really fun.

  1056. 36:58

    >> It was. And that and it was those scenes

  1057. 37:00

    were so funny. Like he got You got to do

  1058. 37:03

    the stupidest talk about fun. Stupid.

  1059. 37:05

    It's the stupidest stuff.

  1060. 37:07

    >> Yeah. Well, there's nothing um there's

  1061. 37:11

    nothing funnier to me than unearned

  1062. 37:14

    confidence.

  1063. 37:15

    >> Yeah.

  1064. 37:16

    >> Like just

  1065. 37:18

    >> somebody feels like they you know it's

  1066. 37:19

    like I've got it figured out and it's

  1067. 37:21

    like no you don't. Yeah.

  1068. 37:22

    >> Um but but if it's

  1069. 37:25

    >> and if it's

  1070. 37:27

    if it's like nice unear like if it's f

  1071. 37:30

    it's really funny if it's not nice

  1072. 37:32

    unearned confidence. But uh that was the

  1073. 37:35

    thing of like he had a lot of kind of

  1074. 37:38

    unearned confidence, but he had he was

  1075. 37:40

    just dumb.

  1076. 37:41

    >> Yeah. He wanted to have a good time

  1077. 37:42

    though. But he's a nice he he was sweet.

  1078. 37:44

    >> He was sweet.

  1079. 37:45

    >> And that and and that was and that was a

  1080. 37:48

    fun that was kind of that's a fun thing

  1081. 37:50

    to get to play. It's a fun kind of

  1082. 37:52

    character to get to play.

  1083. 37:53

    >> Would you would we describe him as like

  1084. 37:55

    guess? Is that the word?

  1085. 37:57

    >> Yeah, I think that's a good way to do

  1086. 37:58

    it. Yeah, there's Yeah,

  1087. 37:59

    >> I know that word.

  1088. 38:01

    That's a really good, by the way. Of

  1089. 38:02

    course you do.

  1090. 38:03

    >> [ __ ] great word.

  1091. 38:04

    >> Anyway, is a [ __ ] great word.

  1092. 38:05

    >> [ __ ] great word.

  1093. 38:06

    >> God damn.

  1094. 38:14

    >> We meet on the set of Parks and Wreck.

  1095. 38:16

    And for people that don't know, like you

  1096. 38:18

    had a crazy week when you got hired.

  1097. 38:21

    >> You got like three jobs that same week.

  1098. 38:23

    What happened that week you were hired

  1099. 38:25

    on Parks? So I basically I was like

  1100. 38:29

    trying to get a part in funny people the

  1101. 38:34

    Jud Appatile movie with Seth Rogan and

  1102. 38:36

    Adam Sandler

  1103. 38:37

    >> and I went through kind of this whole

  1104. 38:39

    vetting process in New York and then

  1105. 38:42

    enough where Allison Jones who cast that

  1106. 38:45

    movie and Parks and Wreck was called me

  1107. 38:48

    and was like all right like you made it

  1108. 38:50

    to the chemistry read stage so you have

  1109. 38:52

    to come out to LA and read with Seth and

  1110. 38:54

    see if you get the part basically. Um,

  1111. 38:57

    and so but I didn't really have an agent

  1112. 38:59

    or anything and I kind of had to like

  1113. 39:01

    pay my way, you know, to go out there.

  1114. 39:03

    So it was like a little bit janky, but I

  1115. 39:04

    got myself out there um to do that. And

  1116. 39:07

    then while I was out in LA for that week

  1117. 39:10

    to do the funny people thing, Allison

  1118. 39:13

    was like, "How would I send you on some

  1119. 39:16

    other things? Like how do you feel about

  1120. 39:17

    that?" And so yeah, so one of them was

  1121. 39:20

    she wanted me to go meet Mike Sher and

  1122. 39:22

    Greg Daniels who at the time were

  1123. 39:25

    shooting on the office and they were

  1124. 39:27

    shooting they were on the set of the

  1125. 39:28

    office. So she sent me to the set of the

  1126. 39:30

    office

  1127. 39:32

    >> and um and I and I didn't even I guess

  1128. 39:34

    at that time I didn't realize like I

  1129. 39:37

    didn't think like oh I could these

  1130. 39:39

    meetings

  1131. 39:40

    >> will get me a job. I mean, I think it's

  1132. 39:42

    one of the things about being young

  1133. 39:43

    that's kind of nice is you're not really

  1134. 39:44

    aware what you're actually like what's

  1135. 39:47

    at stake.

  1136. 39:48

    >> No, definitely not that. I mean, if it

  1137. 39:50

    was an audition, obviously I know like

  1138. 39:52

    all right, I'm going to get the part or

  1139. 39:53

    not. But like

  1140. 39:54

    >> general meetings, I didn't really get

  1141. 39:56

    the vibe of that.

  1142. 39:57

    >> How old were you then?

  1143. 39:58

    >> I was 24 23 23 maybe. Um, but so then I

  1144. 40:03

    went to the set of the office and I was

  1145. 40:05

    so starruck. I see in my horse eye BJ

  1146. 40:10

    Novak and and Mindy Kaling walked by and

  1147. 40:12

    I was like oh my god I was like they're

  1148. 40:14

    in the show or whatever and Mike Sher is

  1149. 40:17

    like hello

  1150. 40:19

    >> and he's like at his desk like and I'm

  1151. 40:22

    like what? And then I just met him for

  1152. 40:26

    like he describes it. He really

  1153. 40:28

    embellishes this story. I think

  1154. 40:30

    >> he loves this story.

  1155. 40:31

    >> He loves it but he's like and then I met

  1156. 40:33

    the weirdest person. I'm like,

  1157. 40:34

    >> there's no bigger fan of Aubrey Plaza

  1158. 40:36

    than Mike Sher.

  1159. 40:37

    >> Yeah, right. Um,

  1160. 40:39

    >> he loves it though because I think like

  1161. 40:42

    I mean it just speaks to honestly the

  1162. 40:44

    fact that

  1163. 40:46

    you've always been yourself confidently

  1164. 40:49

    yourself and you don't have a vibe of

  1165. 40:53

    like you don't you are the opposite of a

  1166. 40:56

    pick me as the kids would say like you

  1167. 40:58

    you do not have that vibe and and that

  1168. 41:00

    draws people in and I think he was like

  1169. 41:02

    who is this person? Yeah.

  1170. 41:04

    >> Who seems mad at me while I try to give

  1171. 41:06

    her a job?

  1172. 41:07

    >> Yeah. Literally. And why are you wearing

  1173. 41:09

    jean shorts in a general meeting?

  1174. 41:11

    >> Like ripped jean shorts.

  1175. 41:12

    >> And you were like, I didn't know what

  1176. 41:13

    this was.

  1177. 41:14

    >> No. And then I got a phone call and they

  1178. 41:17

    were like, you're on a TV show. I'm

  1179. 41:19

    like, what? No. But then

  1180. 41:22

    >> which one? What? What? You're like The

  1181. 41:24

    Office.

  1182. 41:25

    >> Yeah. I literally probably said that. I

  1183. 41:27

    didn't know what was going on. And then

  1184. 41:28

    they were like, "Um, actually, you got

  1185. 41:31

    the part, but actually

  1186. 41:34

    you have to audition to play yourself.

  1187. 41:36

    >> You don't have to name names, but I

  1188. 41:37

    wonder who else was up to play you."

  1189. 41:39

    >> I don't think that anyone.

  1190. 41:41

    >> Oh, right. It was just one person.

  1191. 41:42

    >> I think they just made me do it like for

  1192. 41:44

    the network or something. I think I

  1193. 41:46

    found out later. I mean, maybe not. I

  1194. 41:47

    don't know. It was probably like, you

  1195. 41:49

    know.

  1196. 41:49

    >> Yeah.

  1197. 41:50

    >> It was you, Sharon Stone, and Gina Gers.

  1198. 41:53

    Yeah. So you get the part, we're on the

  1199. 41:55

    set and then like I mean we could do a

  1200. 41:58

    whole obviously we could do a whole

  1201. 42:00

    episode about our experiences there and

  1202. 42:02

    there are so like I mean I don't the

  1203. 42:06

    best thing about our relationship I feel

  1204. 42:08

    like is I don't like all like a lot of I

  1205. 42:12

    think longl lasting relationships is you

  1206. 42:14

    don't always like remember how you met.

  1207. 42:16

    Like

  1208. 42:17

    >> I just remember like just I just have

  1209. 42:19

    this vision of you being next to me on

  1210. 42:22

    the set of that show and me being like

  1211. 42:26

    welcome like you know Leslie was

  1212. 42:28

    supposed to be like welcoming

  1213. 42:30

    >> April and April was supposed to be like

  1214. 42:32

    what am I doing here and Amy was

  1215. 42:35

    welcoming Aubrey and Aubrey was like

  1216. 42:37

    what am I doing here?

  1217. 42:38

    >> Truly. Yeah.

  1218. 42:39

    >> I mean I I remember when we first met

  1219. 42:41

    and it I think I told you this story. It

  1220. 42:43

    was um the promos that we shot.

  1221. 42:47

    >> That's right.

  1222. 42:47

    >> And which was weird because we hadn't

  1223. 42:51

    shot the show yet.

  1224. 42:53

    >> And the rest of the cast hadn't even

  1225. 42:55

    been cast yet. I think at that point it

  1226. 42:57

    was just like Aziz, me, you.

  1227. 42:59

    >> Yeah.

  1228. 43:00

    >> Maybe another. Yeah. I don't think we

  1229. 43:02

    had Nick yet or

  1230. 43:03

    >> I don't think so. But they had me and I

  1231. 43:07

    was there like physically there. So they

  1232. 43:10

    shot this promo of us on a swing set

  1233. 43:13

    >> and that's when I met you like

  1234. 43:15

    officially for the first time and I

  1235. 43:16

    think I was literally on a swing like a

  1236. 43:18

    child like and I was like and I was like

  1237. 43:21

    just don't make any sudden movements.

  1238. 43:23

    >> Um and swinging

  1239. 43:25

    >> except swinging and then you which is

  1240. 43:26

    kind of good cuz swinging is really good

  1241. 43:28

    sematically

  1242. 43:29

    >> for me like I like um but then yeah you

  1243. 43:32

    came over and we were both just swinging

  1244. 43:34

    like little babies. That's how we met

  1245. 43:37

    >> on a swing. We met on a playground which

  1246. 43:39

    is kind of nice.

  1247. 43:39

    >> Really nice. And it feels like the show

  1248. 43:41

    was that like it was it felt like a true

  1249. 43:44

    like playground space. It really was

  1250. 43:47

    like we I mean I loved and love working

  1251. 43:51

    with you. I love playing with you. I

  1252. 43:53

    love acting with you.

  1253. 43:54

    >> I love you as an actor. I love you as a

  1254. 43:57

    person. I love your

  1255. 43:58

    >> acting, Plazi. You know how good I think

  1256. 44:00

    you are.

  1257. 44:01

    >> I love playing with you. And I feel like

  1258. 44:04

    our dynamic, well, like the arc of of um

  1259. 44:07

    in many ways like April had the biggest

  1260. 44:09

    growth in the show. She goes from

  1261. 44:13

    truly not wanting to be where she is to

  1262. 44:15

    like, you know,

  1263. 44:18

    ending the show like with some kind of

  1264. 44:20

    purpose and a a love in her life and

  1265. 44:23

    like some also like a she kind of stands

  1266. 44:27

    up for what she doesn't want to do,

  1267. 44:28

    which is a big part of your 20s. Like,

  1268. 44:31

    >> but um when you started that character,

  1269. 44:34

    when you started her, did you have any

  1270. 44:36

    idea where you thought it would go? Now,

  1271. 44:38

    did you have any,

  1272. 44:40

    you know, did you did you see Yeah.

  1273. 44:43

    >> No, I just

  1274. 44:45

    No, I think I just once I realized like,

  1275. 44:48

    oh, what's so fun about this character

  1276. 44:51

    is that like

  1277. 44:52

    >> it's a game of not showing anyone that I

  1278. 44:57

    really care.

  1279. 44:58

    >> Yes. And like once I locked into that,

  1280. 45:00

    it was a real like it felt like there

  1281. 45:03

    was

  1282. 45:05

    no limit to like the growth or like what

  1283. 45:07

    could happen because

  1284. 45:09

    >> if you hint that there's something else

  1285. 45:12

    going on. It's like you can kind of

  1286. 45:14

    >> play with that and also in different

  1287. 45:16

    ways with every different character. So

  1288. 45:18

    I feel like maybe on an unconscious

  1289. 45:20

    level but

  1290. 45:21

    >> I felt like oh there's so much to play

  1291. 45:24

    with even though it feels really subtle

  1292. 45:26

    and simple. Yeah, that was her secret is

  1293. 45:28

    she cared but she pretended she didn't.

  1294. 45:30

    And so when it would pop out, it was so

  1295. 45:32

    satisfying.

  1296. 45:33

    >> Yeah,

  1297. 45:33

    >> it was so funny and good. And the ways

  1298. 45:35

    in which she tried to keep

  1299. 45:37

    >> those things hidden were so funny.

  1300. 45:40

    >> Yeah.

  1301. 45:41

    >> And then I think just the Andy April

  1302. 45:44

    thing was such an organic like I had no

  1303. 45:47

    idea that was going to become a thing

  1304. 45:49

    until that one episode.

  1305. 45:50

    >> So let's talk about that. So Andy uh

  1306. 45:52

    pray uh played by Chris Pratt. Um, and

  1307. 45:55

    you um, April and Andy had an episode

  1308. 45:58

    where a bunch of us were off like doing

  1309. 46:00

    the like a harvest. We're at the harvest

  1310. 46:03

    festival. We're at some festival.

  1311. 46:04

    >> I don't know where you guys were.

  1312. 46:05

    >> We were doing something together. And

  1313. 46:07

    >> you were like camping or something.

  1314. 46:09

    >> Oh, maybe. Oh, yeah.

  1315. 46:11

    I don't know.

  1316. 46:12

    >> And so they put you guys in the office

  1317. 46:14

    and just said like, "Let's see what

  1318. 46:15

    happens to these two characters when

  1319. 46:17

    they hang out."

  1320. 46:17

    >> Yeah. And basically the chemistry that

  1321. 46:20

    those characters had was the building

  1322. 46:22

    block for why they eventually became

  1323. 46:24

    like the the real romantic love story of

  1324. 46:27

    the show other than Leslie and Anne.

  1325. 46:29

    >> Yeah.

  1326. 46:31

    >> Cuz Anne doesn't deserve

  1327. 46:33

    >> Don't talk about Ann.

  1328. 46:34

    >> Sorry.

  1329. 46:36

    >> But what do you remember of that day? I

  1330. 46:39

    have a v well Greg Daniels directed the

  1331. 46:41

    episode which I I will always remember

  1332. 46:44

    because he was so delighted like he had

  1333. 46:47

    such a like little kid energy and he was

  1334. 46:49

    so he just was like very willing to like

  1335. 46:53

    let's just try things and

  1336. 46:55

    >> we had a whole day where we were just

  1337. 46:56

    playing it. It was like kind of like

  1338. 46:58

    what you said like the office like the

  1339. 47:00

    bull room or bullpen the bullpen.

  1340. 47:03

    >> Um the bull room the bullpen like became

  1341. 47:06

    a playground and I I just remember

  1342. 47:09

    >> I have an image of like us sitting under

  1343. 47:10

    the table. We were like under that main

  1344. 47:13

    table for a while. Like I don't even

  1345. 47:14

    know what we were doing down there.

  1346. 47:16

    >> Um but we were under there and I just

  1347. 47:19

    remember

  1348. 47:21

    >> I don't know. It just felt it was so

  1349. 47:23

    fun. It just felt like I remember before

  1350. 47:25

    then there was I think it was like the

  1351. 47:27

    finale of the maybe the first season or

  1352. 47:30

    >> I don't remember what season, but

  1353. 47:32

    >> there was a very subtle moment where

  1354. 47:34

    we're all in a group. We're in a circle

  1355. 47:36

    and

  1356. 47:38

    um Andy's like saying something about

  1357. 47:41

    his band or he's like something about

  1358. 47:44

    like I think like this band name is cool

  1359. 47:45

    or whatever and everyone else is like no

  1360. 47:47

    and April's and I was just like I like

  1361. 47:49

    it and it was like an improvised thing

  1362. 47:51

    but I do you remember that where where I

  1363. 47:53

    remember being like and then I remember

  1364. 47:56

    >> like knocking on Mike Shur's like door

  1365. 47:58

    and being like listen I was like April

  1366. 48:01

    loves Andy and April thinks Andy is cool

  1367. 48:04

    because he's so not cool that he's cool.

  1368. 48:06

    Do you understand? And Mike was like,

  1369. 48:08

    "Get out of here." And I was like, "You

  1370. 48:10

    I was like, "You better listen to me."

  1371. 48:12

    Um,

  1372. 48:13

    >> no, you did. You knocked on.

  1373. 48:14

    >> It was like I Yeah, it was it was more

  1374. 48:16

    like just the little conversation.

  1375. 48:18

    that was it was like a it was like a

  1376. 48:20

    layer to that character because you

  1377. 48:21

    become his advocate like and that's the

  1378. 48:23

    part of April that like is like another

  1379. 48:26

    interesting layer is like again she acts

  1380. 48:28

    like nothing matters and she's um you

  1381. 48:30

    know completely disaffected but she's

  1382. 48:33

    actually very fiercely loyal.

  1383. 48:35

    >> Yeah.

  1384. 48:36

    >> And very um and like sticks up for

  1385. 48:39

    people she believes in which I think is

  1386. 48:41

    a charact character trait of you too.

  1387. 48:43

    Like you're very you're a very loyal

  1388. 48:45

    friend.

  1389. 48:46

    >> Yeah. you're a really really protective

  1390. 48:48

    friend. Um, and you really stick up for

  1391. 48:51

    people who you love. And that side of it

  1392. 48:54

    was so great because then we got to see

  1393. 48:57

    her like manage him, care about the

  1394. 49:00

    band,

  1395. 49:00

    >> see potential for him that he didn't see

  1396. 49:03

    in himself.

  1397. 49:04

    >> Mhm.

  1398. 49:05

    >> And he was just like, I can't believe

  1399. 49:08

    how lucky I am.

  1400. 49:09

    >> And I remember when the writers had you

  1401. 49:11

    guys get married, we were all like,

  1402. 49:13

    what? Like

  1403. 49:13

    >> I know that was insane. That was Do you

  1404. 49:15

    What do you remember of that day

  1405. 49:17

    shooting it?

  1406. 49:18

    >> We There was a lot of crying. You cried.

  1407. 49:20

    >> I mean,

  1408. 49:21

    >> I love a wedding.

  1409. 49:22

    >> You c I remember you like cried in the

  1410. 49:25

    kitchen and then you were like crying

  1411. 49:26

    like off camera and I was like, "Stop."

  1412. 49:28

    >> You cried that much.

  1413. 49:29

    >> Yes, you did. You like literally cried

  1414. 49:31

    all day. It was so weird.

  1415. 49:33

    >> I was so happy you were in love.

  1416. 49:34

    >> You were like crying all day. There was

  1417. 49:35

    like I was like,

  1418. 49:36

    >> "I'm not crying all day."

  1419. 49:38

    >> I was like, "We're not even the camera."

  1420. 49:39

    I was like, "We're in my trailer. Like,

  1421. 49:41

    why are you doing this?" And you were

  1422. 49:43

    like, "How do you feel?" I'm like,

  1423. 49:44

    >> "Oh my god, no idea.

  1424. 49:45

    >> I'm ordering a salad for lunch. Like,

  1425. 49:47

    this is my job."

  1426. 49:48

    >> I was crying cuz you were crying so hard

  1427. 49:49

    and I was worried that we weren't going

  1428. 49:51

    to get the shot. I was crying cuz I was

  1429. 49:53

    sad at how much you were crying.

  1430. 49:55

    >> I don't think so.

  1431. 49:56

    >> I think that you thought it was real and

  1432. 49:58

    >> Yeah. I I assumed it was legally

  1433. 50:00

    binding. Yeah.

  1434. 50:02

    >> But it was so good. And the And the And

  1435. 50:04

    the vows were so funny.

  1436. 50:07

    >> Yeah.

  1437. 50:07

    >> And the wedding was so stupid.

  1438. 50:10

    >> Okay. I mean, I guess like when do you

  1439. 50:13

    wa have you rewatched Parks and Wreck?

  1440. 50:16

    >> Nope.

  1441. 50:17

    >> What? I'm finding this out. Okay.

  1442. 50:19

    >> I wouldn't even know how.

  1443. 50:22

    >> Shut up.

  1444. 50:25

    >> Okay. Okay.

  1445. 50:27

    >> You ask me how

  1446. 50:28

    >> you've never wa the big giant screen

  1447. 50:31

    that you watch your movies on.

  1448. 50:32

    >> How does it workoop these days? I

  1449. 50:34

    wouldn't

  1450. 50:35

    >> and go to go to

  1451. 50:36

    >> go to what? Type in where the search is.

  1452. 50:39

    >> How? Someone tell me.

  1453. 50:41

    >> Peacock.

  1454. 50:42

    >> No.

  1455. 50:43

    >> Yes. Yes. Go there or go to iTunes.

  1456. 50:47

    >> I wish I knew how.

  1457. 50:48

    >> Just Just pick up your controller and

  1458. 50:50

    just wreck into it and it'll come up.

  1459. 50:54

    >> Okay. It's probably not the right one.

  1460. 50:56

    >> Go to your DVDs. You love your DVDs.

  1461. 50:58

    >> I wish I had one right now.

  1462. 51:00

    >> Um, but so you've never rewatched it?

  1463. 51:03

    >> No.

  1464. 51:04

    >> I don't know what's wrong with you guys.

  1465. 51:05

    I

  1466. 51:06

    >> if it comes on in a hotel room, I

  1467. 51:08

    literally throw something. I throw it.

  1468. 51:11

    >> Adam says I will literally break.

  1469. 51:12

    >> Adam says the watching the show makes

  1470. 51:14

    him sad.

  1471. 51:16

    >> Nick has told me he has not rewatched

  1472. 51:17

    it.

  1473. 51:18

    >> Liar. He jerks off to it every night.

  1474. 51:21

    >> You know, he sits there and like touches

  1475. 51:23

    himself.

  1476. 51:27

    >> You're so right. He's got it on right

  1477. 51:28

    now.

  1478. 51:29

    >> Nick. Nick.

  1479. 51:32

    >> Tammy.

  1480. 51:33

    >> You're right. He does watch it for

  1481. 51:34

    Tammy.

  1482. 51:35

    >> His real life Megan Mali.

  1483. 51:37

    >> They get off on that. They watch it

  1484. 51:38

    together.

  1485. 51:38

    >> They watch. You're so right. They watch

  1486. 51:39

    it together and they and then they just

  1487. 51:41

    slap each other in the face.

  1488. 51:42

    >> They're disgusting.

  1489. 51:43

    >> They're to so disgusting. Nick, I know

  1490. 51:45

    you're listening. You're not fooling

  1491. 51:47

    anybody. Two more things about parks. Uh

  1492. 51:50

    what? We had so many fun guest stars

  1493. 51:52

    come in and like you connected with some

  1494. 51:55

    of them in interesting ways.

  1495. 51:57

    >> I don't know if you remember this, but

  1496. 51:59

    do you remember when Chris Bosch was on

  1497. 52:01

    the show, the basketball player?

  1498. 52:04

    Chris Bosch. He was a Miami Heat player.

  1499. 52:07

    >> Oh, yes.

  1500. 52:08

    >> And he was in like had like different

  1501. 52:11

    beat basketball like Roy um

  1502. 52:13

    >> Yeah. We had Roy Yes. Yeah. Chris Bosch.

  1503. 52:16

    Yes. Chris He was with like Aziz and um

  1504. 52:19

    was he like John Ralph.

  1505. 52:20

    >> Yeah. Entertainment 720.

  1506. 52:22

    >> Yeah. But like I don't know if you know

  1507. 52:23

    the story. It was a really quick story

  1508. 52:25

    but it was so stupid. But I was a really

  1509. 52:26

    big Chris Bosch fan. So like I was like

  1510. 52:29

    oh my god like I can't believe he's

  1511. 52:31

    coming. like this is insane. I was like,

  1512. 52:33

    I want to play a prank on him.

  1513. 52:35

    >> Do you know this? No. And so he had to

  1514. 52:37

    go through hair and makeup, but you

  1515. 52:39

    know, he I think had very little hair

  1516. 52:41

    and you know, whatever. Um didn't need

  1517. 52:42

    makeup cuz he's a guy or whatever.

  1518. 52:44

    >> Um but you know how they always put them

  1519. 52:46

    through the works anyway. So I was like,

  1520. 52:47

    I'm going to pretend to be the hair

  1521. 52:49

    stylist

  1522. 52:51

    >> and I think it was it Terry maybe was in

  1523. 52:54

    there and you know how she had those

  1524. 52:56

    glasses or whatever. So I was like,

  1525. 52:58

    Terry, give me your glasses or I can't

  1526. 52:59

    remember whatever. And I'm thinking like

  1527. 53:01

    this is gonna be hilarious because it's

  1528. 53:03

    gonna be me and he'll be like, "Haha,

  1529. 53:06

    it's you." Um, so I like pretend to be

  1530. 53:09

    Terry. I'm like at her station

  1531. 53:12

    >> and then he goes through like makeup

  1532. 53:13

    first and they're like, "You look good."

  1533. 53:15

    You know, a little powder and you're

  1534. 53:17

    good. And then he like went and he was

  1535. 53:18

    like, "Yeah, yeah, thanks a lot." And

  1536. 53:20

    then he sat down in my chair and I was

  1537. 53:22

    like "Well,"

  1538. 53:24

    and I looked and I was like, "What are

  1539. 53:26

    we going to do today?" And I was like

  1540. 53:28

    doing like a dumb thing and he didn't

  1541. 53:31

    make any eye contact with me. He was

  1542. 53:32

    just looking down and he was so sweet.

  1543. 53:34

    But he didn't make eye contact. He was

  1544. 53:36

    just like, "Yeah, whatever you think."

  1545. 53:37

    >> Oh no. And you were like,

  1546. 53:38

    >> and I was like, "Well, I think that

  1547. 53:42

    you're looking pretty good, sir." And

  1548. 53:45

    he'd be like, "Yeah, I'm so I'm good.

  1549. 53:46

    All right." And I'd be like, "Well,

  1550. 53:48

    you're not that good." And then it was

  1551. 53:50

    like I just kept it going. And someone

  1552. 53:53

    videotaped it. And it was

  1553. 53:55

    >> so awkward. didn't recognize me at all.

  1554. 53:58

    Didn't know who I was. Don't think he

  1555. 53:59

    ever knew who I was. Not once.

  1556. 54:01

    >> Chris Bosch isn't going to be watching

  1557. 54:02

    the show before he comes and does. He's

  1558. 54:04

    too busy.

  1559. 54:05

    >> I was. He thought I was uh

  1560. 54:07

    >> he thought you were a hair person

  1561. 54:08

    >> and like the PA are like, "We really

  1562. 54:10

    need him on set." I'm like, "WELL, HE'S

  1563. 54:11

    ALMOST DONE IN MY department of hair."

  1564. 54:15

    And then

  1565. 54:16

    basically it just died

  1566. 54:18

    >> and he never he never nope.

  1567. 54:19

    >> Well, Chris is probably listening so now

  1568. 54:21

    you know.

  1569. 54:22

    >> Never not once.

  1570. 54:23

    >> Did you even work with him on set that

  1571. 54:25

    day?

  1572. 54:26

    Never saw him again. Literally never saw

  1573. 54:27

    him again ever in my life.

  1574. 54:31

    >> Every single day someone tells me Parks

  1575. 54:35

    got them through the pandemic. And I

  1576. 54:36

    heard you mention it on a previous

  1577. 54:38

    episode.

  1578. 54:38

    >> Every single day people say, "I watched

  1579. 54:41

    it during co I watch it with my kid. My

  1580. 54:44

    kids going through a hard time. I like

  1581. 54:46

    to watch it at night because I get I

  1582. 54:48

    have a lot of anxiety." Like I I cannot

  1583. 54:52

    believe the way that that show continues

  1584. 54:54

    to be a a medicine for people. It's

  1585. 54:58

    >> It's so nice. Isn't that nice?

  1586. 55:00

    >> And Ben and Lesie.

  1587. 55:01

    >> I know. I know.

  1588. 55:03

    >> We just We Do you remember we were

  1589. 55:05

    texting just a couple months ago and

  1590. 55:07

    just kind of commented on how nice they

  1591. 55:10

    are?

  1592. 55:11

    >> They're so nice. They're so much nicer

  1593. 55:13

    than us.

  1594. 55:13

    >> So much nicer.

  1595. 55:14

    >> And they're so nice to each other.

  1596. 55:16

    >> I know. And every every woman deserves a

  1597. 55:19

    Ben. Every woman deserves a partner like

  1598. 55:22

    Ben who roots for you and like looks at

  1599. 55:27

    you and is just like that's my gal. Like

  1600. 55:30

    everyone deserves that kind of

  1601. 55:31

    relationship.

  1602. 55:32

    >> Lesie from the word go

  1603. 55:37

    loved Ben.

  1604. 55:38

    >> Oh beyond.

  1605. 55:39

    >> Like I now looking back it's like they

  1606. 55:41

    were just in love with each other

  1607. 55:44

    immediately. And their arc was such so

  1608. 55:46

    juicy. The writers, Mike and the

  1609. 55:48

    writers, because they meet and they're

  1610. 55:50

    just like,

  1611. 55:51

    >> "Well, what's your deal?"

  1612. 55:52

    >> Oh, yeah. It was like,

  1613. 55:54

    >> and then and then they like each other,

  1614. 55:56

    but then they can't

  1615. 55:57

    >> THEY CAN'T BE TOGETHER.

  1616. 55:59

    >> THEY CAN'T BE TOGETHER. She's like,

  1617. 56:00

    "Really?" I mean, they probably could

  1618. 56:02

    have been together.

  1619. 56:02

    >> I know. It didn't matter, but

  1620. 56:04

    >> And then they was like, "This is totally

  1621. 56:07

    fake and whatever, but we just need to

  1622. 56:09

    have Rob care about you two being

  1623. 56:11

    together." And it worked. And it was

  1624. 56:13

    like made it even hotter.

  1625. 56:16

    >> Ben was like, "I want you." Like Ben

  1626. 56:18

    kept putting Leslie's, you know what it

  1627. 56:20

    is?

  1628. 56:21

    >> They kept putting each other's needs

  1629. 56:24

    over their own. They cared about what

  1630. 56:25

    the other one needed and they respected

  1631. 56:27

    each other. Like they really liked what

  1632. 56:29

    the other one did.

  1633. 56:31

    >> And it was the best thing about that

  1634. 56:33

    relationship is how um you know, with

  1635. 56:35

    the exception of Ann, who is

  1636. 56:36

    >> of course

  1637. 56:37

    >> Leslie's number one. Um

  1638. 56:39

    >> of course,

  1639. 56:40

    >> uh

  1640. 56:40

    >> I've accepted that.

  1641. 56:42

    >> Yeah. uh is the way that they um they

  1642. 56:46

    just rooted for each other.

  1643. 56:48

    >> Yes,

  1644. 56:49

    >> they really rooted for each other.

  1645. 56:50

    >> I I haven't seen a ton of It makes me

  1646. 56:53

    sad to watch the show cuz I miss it.

  1647. 56:55

    >> Why did you say that? Why does it make

  1648. 56:57

    you sad?

  1649. 56:58

    >> Because I I miss it. I like you were

  1650. 57:01

    saying like we really appreciated being

  1651. 57:03

    there every day and it was so fun. And

  1652. 57:07

    also just sort of walking in that

  1653. 57:09

    building and then suddenly you're there

  1654. 57:11

    and the hallways and the

  1655. 57:12

    >> Yeah,

  1656. 57:13

    >> it was so fun. And the people I just

  1657. 57:15

    loved everybody.

  1658. 57:16

    >> I think one of the things that was so

  1659. 57:18

    fun about what we got to do is the

  1660. 57:21

    camera

  1661. 57:23

    helped us

  1662. 57:25

    at least it helped me have my feelings

  1663. 57:28

    about you know there I I tell people

  1664. 57:31

    like of course you of course we love

  1665. 57:34

    Ben. We got to like Ben, we watch Ben

  1666. 57:37

    watch Leslie and we love Leslie. So like

  1667. 57:40

    when people love Leslie, we love them.

  1668. 57:43

    And we got to watch Ben love her

  1669. 57:45

    >> because the camera w like we got to do

  1670. 57:48

    so much indirect stuff like we didn't

  1671. 57:50

    have to face to face all the time. We

  1672. 57:52

    had feelings, our characters had

  1673. 57:54

    feelings for each other because of the

  1674. 57:55

    camera. That's right.

  1675. 57:57

    >> The even though I mean and it's such a

  1676. 57:59

    beautiful uh genre that mockumentary

  1677. 58:02

    because it allows you to just even

  1678. 58:04

    create space and depth in the shot.

  1679. 58:07

    People are just not in the same room.

  1680. 58:09

    >> That's right. And like I remember we

  1681. 58:11

    always used to say we loved it when

  1682. 58:12

    there were spy shots through like blinds

  1683. 58:15

    because it made our acting better. Do

  1684. 58:16

    you remember that?

  1685. 58:17

    >> Yes. Do you also remember this thing we

  1686. 58:20

    used to do where sometimes we would be

  1687. 58:22

    doing a scene and we'd be like, "Okay, I

  1688. 58:24

    can't I'm not someone who can predict

  1689. 58:26

    the future 100%." But I will say it was

  1690. 58:31

    like a couple times a season. I will say

  1691. 58:33

    I can say with 100% certainty that

  1692. 58:37

    neither of us will ever win an award for

  1693. 58:40

    acting for this scene.

  1694. 58:45

    like totally

  1695. 58:46

    >> you would say it sometimes and sometimes

  1696. 58:48

    you know what let's just I mean and also

  1697. 58:51

    on the other side I would sometimes say

  1698. 58:53

    you know and I said this on the podcast

  1699. 58:55

    like I would say like Adam your acting

  1700. 58:56

    is so good you'd be like shut up we're

  1701. 58:58

    in the middle of the scene like because

  1702. 59:00

    it was like oh my god um I mean but oh

  1703. 59:05

    yeah I mean that's what I love about

  1704. 59:07

    working with you and I just feel like

  1705. 59:09

    before we end like I just want to feed

  1706. 59:11

    our fans a little bit more which is what

  1707. 59:14

    Um,

  1708. 59:15

    what do you think was the most romantic

  1709. 59:18

    scene between Ben and Lesie?

  1710. 59:19

    >> Oh, man.

  1711. 59:21

    It's so sweet.

  1712. 59:23

    >> I know. But what was the most

  1713. 59:24

    >> The most romantic? I think

  1714. 59:27

    >> I think Well,

  1715. 59:30

    >> there are a couple of nominees.

  1716. 59:32

    >> Okay.

  1717. 59:33

    >> But I think

  1718. 59:34

    >> I think maybe smallest park

  1719. 59:38

    >> cuz I just heard a little groan.

  1720. 59:40

    >> I hope it's a good groan. Yeah. Someone

  1721. 59:42

    just being like

  1722. 59:45

    I love smallest.

  1723. 59:47

    >> Me too.

  1724. 59:48

    >> Nicole Holiff Center the great

  1725. 59:49

    directseel wrote that

  1726. 59:51

    >> Chelsea Peretti wrote that episode

  1727. 59:53

    >> and I remember really

  1728. 59:56

    like feeling connected shooting that and

  1729. 1:00:00

    just being like this is kind of feeling

  1730. 1:00:02

    like how special

  1731. 1:00:04

    >> it was. Yes.

  1732. 1:00:05

    >> Making the show and that was

  1733. 1:00:09

    >> Yeah. That was But I don't know what

  1734. 1:00:12

    what do you think?

  1735. 1:00:13

    >> Well, I have a lot. I I mean, I feel

  1736. 1:00:15

    like that was such a big one. I feel

  1737. 1:00:17

    like some of the

  1738. 1:00:18

    >> I have such a affinity for the beginning

  1739. 1:00:22

    beginnings parts of Ben and Leslie

  1740. 1:00:24

    because I do think it also just reminded

  1741. 1:00:26

    me of like we were, you know, the show

  1742. 1:00:29

    was deciding that they were going to

  1743. 1:00:30

    love each other, too.

  1744. 1:00:31

    >> Yeah. And um I really love this tiny

  1745. 1:00:36

    moment when they realize they have they

  1746. 1:00:39

    like the same spot when they like to sit

  1747. 1:00:42

    under the sunflower mural.

  1748. 1:00:44

    >> Well,

  1749. 1:00:45

    >> I love that moment

  1750. 1:00:46

    >> when I ask you if you know where that

  1751. 1:00:49

    mural is and your response is really

  1752. 1:00:53

    it's a rewindable moment.

  1753. 1:00:54

    >> I love that moment between both of us

  1754. 1:00:56

    because and of course Parks then pays it

  1755. 1:00:59

    off years later. later

  1756. 1:01:02

    >> by sitting underneath it.

  1757. 1:01:04

    >> Yep.

  1758. 1:01:05

    >> Um I also, you know, when we shot Ben

  1759. 1:01:08

    and Leslie's wedding, it was so fun. It

  1760. 1:01:10

    was like we were all just sitting there

  1761. 1:01:11

    all day goofing around.

  1762. 1:01:14

    >> Um and it was so fun. And like

  1763. 1:01:16

    >> I think we had real champagne, too.

  1764. 1:01:18

    Maybe

  1765. 1:01:18

    >> we probably did.

  1766. 1:01:19

    >> Yeah,

  1767. 1:01:20

    >> we probably did. And then that probably

  1768. 1:01:22

    became a problem later in the day. Yeah,

  1769. 1:01:24

    probably champagne. Not something to

  1770. 1:01:26

    have when you're when you have like a

  1771. 1:01:29

    10-hour workday ahead of you.

  1772. 1:01:32

    >> Are you asked all the time if there'll

  1773. 1:01:34

    be a more arcs or a reboot or something?

  1774. 1:01:37

    >> I always feel like it's it's been it's

  1775. 1:01:40

    done. Like it was perfectly done. Like

  1776. 1:01:42

    how do you do that?

  1777. 1:01:43

    >> Perfectly. Maybe they should do like

  1778. 1:01:45

    Muppet Babies. They should do like Parks

  1779. 1:01:46

    and Wreck babies. That's right. Like

  1780. 1:01:47

    everyone has babies.

  1781. 1:01:48

    >> All of us as like that Instagram thing

  1782. 1:01:51

    where everyone's

  1783. 1:01:52

    >> Oh, yeah. Have you seen that? Yeah. AI

  1784. 1:01:53

    babies. They should do AI babies,

  1785. 1:01:56

    >> but like a whole series

  1786. 1:01:57

    >> Yeah.

  1787. 1:01:57

    >> of all of us just in a crib together.

  1788. 1:02:00

    >> Yeah. But they should do it like present

  1789. 1:02:01

    day where like the politics are really

  1790. 1:02:03

    dark. Yep.

  1791. 1:02:04

    >> And mean. And so it should be like tiny

  1792. 1:02:07

    babies fighting each other.

  1793. 1:02:08

    >> They hate each other. It's like

  1794. 1:02:10

    apocalyptic political babies.

  1795. 1:02:13

    >> And they all like are like, "Oh no, I

  1796. 1:02:16

    hate

  1797. 1:02:17

    >> I hate you so much.

  1798. 1:02:18

    >> I hate you so much. Yay." I mean,

  1799. 1:02:20

    >> yay. I hate you. because we made the

  1800. 1:02:23

    show in an era where public service was

  1801. 1:02:26

    encouraged and valued,

  1802. 1:02:28

    >> right?

  1803. 1:02:29

    >> And funded.

  1804. 1:02:30

    >> Yes.

  1805. 1:02:31

    >> It was or I mean, you know, I'm sure it

  1806. 1:02:33

    wasn't as funded as much as it should

  1807. 1:02:35

    have been, but it was funded at least.

  1808. 1:02:38

    >> Um it's an entirely different I know

  1809. 1:02:40

    >> tone to American life.

  1810. 1:02:42

    >> You know, when you have that feeling

  1811. 1:02:43

    sometimes like you wish you could go

  1812. 1:02:44

    back to high school and enjoy it,

  1813. 1:02:46

    >> right?

  1814. 1:02:47

    >> That's how it felt like we actually got

  1815. 1:02:48

    to do it in real time.

  1816. 1:02:49

    >> Yeah. because it was genuinely goofy and

  1817. 1:02:53

    funny.

  1818. 1:02:54

    >> Yeah.

  1819. 1:02:54

    >> Like the best jokes.

  1820. 1:02:57

    Uh

  1821. 1:02:57

    >> what is your what is your one of your

  1822. 1:02:58

    favorite what is one of the favorite

  1823. 1:03:00

    funny scenes you got to do? So many

  1824. 1:03:03

    >> so many. I mean I always think of you

  1825. 1:03:05

    guys on the on on the ice at the ice

  1826. 1:03:08

    skating rink with Gloria Stefon.

  1827. 1:03:10

    >> Yeah.

  1828. 1:03:11

    >> I mean that is I remember at the table

  1829. 1:03:13

    read that was we couldn't stop laughing

  1830. 1:03:15

    because it was so funny.

  1831. 1:03:17

    >> Yeah. Mike Scully wrote that episode and

  1832. 1:03:19

    >> on Mike Skully.

  1833. 1:03:20

    >> We got to uh walk across that ice and I

  1834. 1:03:25

    remember just thinking this is so fun.

  1835. 1:03:27

    Oh my god, what a fun job. I wasn't even

  1836. 1:03:30

    in that scene.

  1837. 1:03:31

    >> Yeah, that's right. That's right. Sorry.

  1838. 1:03:33

    We should probably just photoshop.

  1839. 1:03:35

    >> We should put me in that scene. That's

  1840. 1:03:36

    why I brought it up. I feel like it

  1841. 1:03:38

    would I I deserve it.

  1842. 1:03:42

    >> Okay, are you guys ready to watch it?

  1843. 1:03:43

    >> Yeah.

  1844. 1:03:44

    >> Okay, here we go.

  1845. 1:03:45

    >> Yes. really exciting.

  1846. 1:03:48

    >> Amy, are you gonna play it FROM

  1847. 1:03:54

    IT?

  1848. 1:03:55

    >> I'm supposed TO

  1849. 1:04:00

    GO.

  1850. 1:04:02

    >> You've been listening to Good Hang. The

  1851. 1:04:04

    executive producers for this show are

  1852. 1:04:06

    Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss Berman, and

  1853. 1:04:08

    me, Amy Polar. The show is produced by

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  1855. 1:04:12

    ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Cat

  1856. 1:04:14

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    Sam Green, Joel Levelvel, and Jenna

  1859. 1:04:21

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  1860. 1:04:23

    Miles.

  1861. 1:04:26

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